Leak in a Hyster forklift

The leak does not work, but the web page was there. I "printed it to PDF" and saved it here:

I mean the LINK does not work, for some reason.

There's a fairly simple way of checking what's leaking and where, and that's UV dye that can be had at NAPA. There are types that can be had that are both water- and oil-soluble and flouresce in different colors. I use a UV scorpion light for looking, it's just a UV flashlight and can be found pretty cheaply online. If you've got multiple possibilities, you add the dye to one possible source at a time, then check for leaks. I've used this system for ATF, engine oil, power steering, and coolant, works great. Finds the drip-a-day ones, too. Sometimes it's as simple as a clamp that's hidden and needs tightening. In another case, it was a radiator damaged at a lower corner but didn't look like it. Glowed like a demon, though. You just have to make sure the dye gets cleaned off before finding the NEXT leak.

Stan

Iggy, The link didn't work but I was able to backtrack to get to it.

let me get this straight, your truck has a powershift transmission (no clutch) with a monotrol pedal. Three oil lines leaving side of the pedal going to the control valve on the tranny.

I'm not going to get to this untill tomorrow or tuesday. I will have a chat with a fellow tech who has way more experience than me on transmissions

The pdf link should work.

yes!

jeff, you are the most awesome human being, thanks a lot.

And.. that was why I suggested that it's a matter of keeping all the fluids topped off, every day.

This was a routine included in everyday checks before the daylight shift started using the trucks (IC and electric types) when I was doing industrial maintenance. It's not only a good idea from a maintenance/service position, but also as a matter of safety. Otherwise, some worker may hop on a truck after sitting overnight and run it across the shop without seeing the big puddle of brake fluid underneath it.

So, for you at least, just keeping the fluids topped off probably wouldn't cost much.. until another forklift bargain comes along. I didn't realize I'd have to spell it out for you.

Nothing is maintenance-free.. if you want a forklift that doesn't require you to repair or maintain it, you'll likely need to buy a new one with an on-site maintenance, service and repair contract.

Your save of that pfd still doesn't seem to werk.

And you should know, there is a lot of inaccurate info posted to web forums.. like adding some miracle product to the oil to stop a leak.

Cottage cheese and pepper is good.

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Might that not be a hydrostatic traction drive?

LLoyd

nope error 401 I had to backspace to your temp folder and go from there

GEEEEEZZZZZZZZZZZ Like DUDE.... your welcome :-) I am out of my expertise with trannys by will do my best. I'm just trying to help in an area I'm familiar with.

By the way, I was checking out your ebay stuff and saw that marklift sizzor lift. If you end up selling that them make sure that you hold no responsibility on it. I had to investigate one falling over one time hurting two employees of a business I service.

It was their responsibility to do and ANSI and annual inspection on it. No one did it and when the two operators were 20" up with a maybe too large load one of the worn out signor ear bushings blew out. Over she went... not a pretty picture in a busy warehouse.

On 3/18/2012 1:03 PM, jeff wrote: ...

I bought a JLG 40H thru a broker (in FL) which was locate in Chicago area. It was my understanding then that IL _required_ a currently-valid OSHA check on the unit before it could be sold as operational.

I don't know the details specifically; I do know the unit had indeed had a recertification and a couple of small repairs to equipment (like the backup beeper replaced) before it was sold.

It's another of those things that could be a gotcha' Ig needs to check if is so or not or whether he can disclaim any knowledge/responsibility/liability in that regard or not.

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Good. Here's an easier link:

Awesome! The serial number is this: D002D13868G, if anyone needs it.

Yep.

Scary! I do have a language that it is sold as is and it is the buyer's responsibility to conduct a professional safety evaluation.

On 3/18/2012 2:49 PM, Ignoramus32296 wrote: ...

But are you certain that's enough?

NB--I'm not saying it isn't; only that there was at least an implication to me that it was at least required to be current if not reinspected before a sale on the manlift. That assurance was the only reason I was willing to take a chance on it sight unseen--figured if it passed OSHA at least it had to be functional to start with... :)

There are so many ways liabilities can be passed backwards I'd want to be sure I knew any legal requirements before transferring title.

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It says model H40F oil clutch serial B3D 7623P

Thanks for helping

Karl

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DANG! That's the _ONLY_ time I've ever seen anyone but me issue a "nota bene"! GOOD on ya'!

LLoyd

"Sold as-is for parts only. Buyer acknowledges that it is their responsibility to comply with all regulations and inspections if the unit is placed into service."

As I thought Karl, I don't have access to anything that old on-line. I will do some checking to see if anyone has a sevice manual kicking around as well as checking with my bud sometime during the week.

Best I can see is that its a powershift. It uses solenoid valves closed by the monotrol pedal to engage either forward or reverse. From there its a engine speed.

My earlier days as a cat tech taught me that a hydrostatic tranny has two variable clutch spools that vary speed as the pedal is pushed forward or reverse.

I will be better imformed within the next few days and will get back to you

On 3/18/2012 5:15 PM, Pete C. wrote: ...

Good try... :) Not sure if that'll fly or not if push came to shove.

The only two Marklift scissors I currently can find on eBay in the general neighborhood of Chicago (where I think iggy is?) are one from a clear handler of such equipment that promises a current ANSI compliance certification and the appropriate user manuals, safety instructions, etc., with it just like the broker from FL w/ whom I dealt.

The other is from a general retailer site storefront (I can't tell if it's Iggy or not; no hints in that direction I see, anyway) that doesn't have any such promises but says "...used scissor lift in good working condition, needs nothing ready to work today..." which would make me nervous as seller unless it did have up-to-date certification and I had ensured myself I had dotted all the tee's and crossed all the eye's of whatever regulations are applicable.

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Search for "mark industries scissor" to find Iggy's.

Iggy, I am very sorry for opening up a can of worms with the Marklift. I would just hate to have you go through the hassles of someone getting hurt if that thing should go over on its side shortly after you sell it.

I have not ANSI'ed a Marklift in a long time but I am certified to do so. Do yourself a favor before that thing leaves your yard.

Jack up all four wheels and check for any slop in the spindles and steer rods. These will fail at the most inopportune time.

Set it back down on the ground and use the aux raise switch to raise the platform up of its home position a few feet. When in that position, grab a pry bar that is long enough to give you leverage but will still fit between the ears/pivots of all the arms. If you notice any play when you pry on each point the truck wouldn't pass inspection without a total teadown.

Doing these two checks would at least make me comfortable. Once it leaves your yard all bets are off as to what the new owner might do stupidly. As a dealer we would have to do a thorough inspection on this unit and at that would cost more than the unit is worth

I would not pass the data plate because of its condition.

As a side note, the capacity on this thing is 1000lbs in optimal shape, throw a couple 200lb men on it with whatever other load while in a raised position and then roll one wheel into a hole or over a 2X4 and stand back, thats when shit will hit the pervervial fan.

contact me off line if you wish. Just add "bell" after my name in the headers of this post.

Off to bed

jeff