The story about Gunner, who recently said he had no money, stopping by
Red Cross and giving them a $100 cash donation, and not getting any
receipt, does not sound believable. Does not mean that it is outright
impossible, but it is not believable.
At this point, being a true agnostic, I do not believe the story to be
true, but I am not certain that it is false, either.
What's a little amusing is that Gunner thinks he didn't need to file on
He owes the SE tax, about $1,500.00, on every dollar and the filing
requirement kicks in at the same time - dollar one.
I think, THINK mind you, that income in excess of $600 requires a filing but
I'm not sure.
What I am sure of is that filing isn't conditioned on owing the IRS or the
FTB and anything over $1,200.00 requires a 1099 even if payment is made "in
kind". Otherwise, whoever paid him owes his tax.
Gunner said he begun BK proceedings. I doubt that because if he had he'd
know all of this and he aslo wouldn't be looking at bills from a hospital or
He'd have listed them all as creditors and that would be that. In
California, it would be illegal for a named creditor to continue to pursue
their claim outside of the court proceedings.
Failing to list ALL of your income, assets, and creditors will cost him his
house. It's a bad idea for him to continue any fraud that might have been
going on in front of the court. In fact, it's a felony and California will
forfiet his homestead act rights and protections in a heartbeat. I actually
collected $27,000.00 from a guy this way once and boy as he ever P.O.'d. So
was his mortgage lender.
I saw that, but he may be right. Filing singly, the maximum is $9,350. If
he's filing jointly, it is $18,700; married filing separately, it's $3,650.
Less than that and you don't *have* to file. But I think he'd make out
better if he filed; I don't know the rules on EITC.
That is, if his clients file 1099s.
More likely than fraud is repression and avoidance.
Nor do I but I know what the State of California requires.
California is a son of a bitch about this stuff Ed.
They do payroll audits on a regular basis and the auditors get a bonus for
what they collect.
They also do sales tax audits periodically.
At the end of the audit you just write a check if ther number is
reasonable - meaning affordable.
I've only heard about people that have put up a real battle. Every single
person I know, myself included, has just written that check and grumbled.
The guy needs a clean break before it's to late. F'ing around isn't the way
to get that result.
He'll first have to admit his problem.
Then he can go through the system and come out cleaned up. At that point,
he'll be employable, at least in some meanial job.
There are a dozen decent paying jobs right in Taft that he can't even apply
for now. He'd have to pass a credit check for any of them and be elgible for
a low level security clearance for a couple. He can do neither of those
things today. He isn't even bondable.
LOL Have you forgotten that he claims to have sold "all" his guns
and machinery to his father? Yet he's always talking about selling
stuff to cover this or that emergency. The only question is if he's
defrauding his father , or his creditors. BTW, I'm with John, I
don't believe gummer has or will file for bankruptcy. That would
require that he intends to give his creditors *something*. No way he's
going to give them a nickel unless they somehow force the issue, which
is gonna' be tough with somebody who's been successfully dodging bills
for his entire adult life.
All good points. But I doubt that he wants to work at all, much less
full time. He's dedicated to subsistence living. If either he or his
wife can get on disability (assuming she isn't already) like his kid ,
he'll have more time for posting than he does now.
Anecdote: a guy I know needed a job desperately, but wasn't looking.
When I tried to help out with the search, his friend told me that the
guy felt deprived because everyone in his circle were getting checks
of one sort or another, and that was his goal as well. He refused to
accept that the others were qualified (on paper anyway) for their
checks, but he wasn't. The deadbeat world can be a strange place.
Those that tithe, give 10 % if they can. I am not in that group, I'd hate to
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller
Do they now.
Got a cite for that?
What impression were you hoping to create Wes?
I'll tell you , and anyone viewing this,something that you can do to create
Send these guys socks, talcum powder and beef jerkey.
4th LAR Bn, H&S Company
fpo ap 96427-0650
I know one as well
We tithe on the basis of our biblical teaching, ie. first fruits.
The ten percent thing is a bunch of evangelical bullshit.
Jimmy Swaggert is a ten percenter.
So is Crouch.
What's ten percent of the cheap assed jets they fly?
I mean come on, real men fly Falcon's or Challengers, not Lear's.
If that's true, then they're totally misusing the word. From
Word History: A tithe is a tenth, etymologically speaking; in fact,
tithe is the old ordinal numeral in English. Sound changes in the
prehistory of English are responsible for its looking so different
from the word ten. Tithe goes back to a prehistoric West Germanic form
*tehuntha-, formed from the cardinal numeral *tehun, "ten," and the
same ordinal suffix that survives in Modern English as -th. The n
disappeared before the th in the West Germanic dialect area that gave
rise to English, and eventually yielded the Old English form t=C4=93othe,
"tenth," still not too different from the cardinal numeral t=C4=ABen. But
over time, as the former became tithe and the latter ten, and as tithe
developed the specialized meaning "a tenth part paid as a tax," it
grew harder to perceive a relationship between the two. The result was
that speakers of English created a new word for the ordinal, tenth,
built with the cardinal numeral ten on the pattern of the other
regularly-formed ordinal numerals like sixth or seventh.
Ignoramus29432 wrote in
An Individual Retirement Account.
All funds remaining in a candidate's Campaign Fund - once the final bills
are paid - are considered to be just waiting for the next campaign.
The candidate - by declaring the amount as income on his/her/its tax
return - can withdraw and spend as much or as little as desired.
IOW, for all practical purposes, Campaign Fund = IRA for politicians.
"Probably" isn't worth much to me when it comes to Usenet posters.
Once I know that someone is BSing on a subject I know something about,
how am I supposed to tell if they're doing the same on other subjects?
If I need a consensus on those, I can get it quicker without having a
question mark alongside the BSer's contribution. On the other hand it
doesn't matter if I disagree with posters on some things, so long as
they don't lose their credibility by BSing during the process.
I'll agree on the latter part. As for the former part, you're right, which
is why I take everything that some posters say with a grain of salt. I know
just enough about handloading to know where Gunner is on that stuff. I
disagree with him about using Dacron fluff to fill cartridges for light
target loads, for example, because I've done it and I get a melted mess in
the throat. I use kapok. So do many other people. But many others agree with
Gunner on it. Its viability probably varies with the gun and the load.
In any case, he isn't b.s.'ing about that stuff. He has two modes of
discussion and you have to be alert to which one is in use. Anything
political, assume b.s. and you'll be right 80% of the time. The same goes
for Constitutional history, but that's just a result of a hop-scotch,
self-selected self-education -- like Retief and Strabo.
I can only answer as an EX Mormon. The Mormon church wants members to tithe
10%. Ones who cannot are asked to perform duties instead. At the end of
the year, you and your bishop have a tithing settlement where you are either
asked to come up with the shortage or given a hearty back pat for any given
in excess. None is ever refunded. Having a clean tithing history is a
REQUIREMENT for entering certain parts of a temple, temple ceremonies, and
positions of leadership in the church, even including janitor staff, which
is a well paid life time job with benefits.
There is an old boy system in the church similar to the Masons. Many of the
Mormon men ARE Masons. Lots of local business decisions are made by this
cadre. And afterward, church members are encouraged to patronize members
businesses, and severely chastised for patronizing non member businesses. A
member in need is often sent by the bishop to a local Mormon businessman for
a job, or a car, or whatever. A vig from the business is also expected for
the opportunity to get the seal of approval, and the ongoing business
In some cases, it may go up to 40%, but when you basically have a monopoly
on a good or service in a community, guaranteed continued success, and
dependable profits, 60% can still leave you a good net, and the 40% is a
good write off.
So, having a cement rock hard status and position in the community financial
area, being a king of kings, and being a social pillar is worth giving away
some of the money channeled to you through religious means.