SWAGs on shop cost

I'm putting up a 26' wide x 44' long x 16' high pole building up in the PNW. I asked for bids to have one put up and they came in anywhere from $18,500 on up to $35,750 installed. I did see some good deals on engineered steel building kits but could not go that route due to my odd size requirements.

Spent circa $21,000 in 2004 for 21'x40 foot pole construction, insulated on

6" slab. An additional $3,000 was spent on the slab heating system. Portland, OR area.

DFW area ads for buildings run in the area of 10K for a 30x40x10 with one 10' rollup door and one walkway door on a slab. Insulation is extra and depends greatly on the type you want.

Craig C,

Does that include foundation?

Steve

You don't even fsking want to know... About $240,000. See, you didn't want to know...

I guess you haven't had one of these built recently or can't even come up with a good guess.

Take another hit, there, Jimmy. Tomorrow when you're all there, work on your reading comprehension. Or get that IGNORE button fixed.

Steve

I stood out in an open field with a general contracter 2 weeks ago. $200/sq ft.

If you think I just like to lie or bullshit, google-groups my email and read some of my posts. I don't.

I live in an extremely desirable area and all the construction companies are booked solid and charging accordingly.

There's only 2 people can call me Jimmy and you're not on the list, Steve.

Got a quote for $47K erected for a barn/workshop 16.2m x 13.2m x 4.2m high. Decided I could do it myself for less. So far I'm into it about $12K for the slab & footings. Expect to come in around the $20K mark with mostly my own labor. After that who knows, I haven't been willing to put a dollar figure on wiring, fitout etc.

PDW

On Tue, 04 Jul 2006 23:58:22 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, Jim Stewart quickly quoth:

Is that a home, a completely plumbed 2.5 bath shop with gilded faucets, gas, electric, 1,000 gallon septic system, and landscaping for 1 acre? Crikey!

Suckage! So you'll just have to -react- accordingly, Jim. Call some metal building installers from outside your immediate area and get other bids. That building would go for under $50k here in So. Oregon.

In the midwest farming country:

Materials for a pole barn structure (posts, trusses, purloins, sheetmetal, doors, and windows) of this general size will run $5 to $8 a square foot depending on wall height, number and type of doors, overhang, and sheetmetal color/thickness.

Insulation and vapor barrier is all over the map depending on where you live and what you want to use it for. Anything from $.05 to $.50 a square foot. Most folks in the cold areas partition the space off into a smaller insulated shop and cold storage.

Concrete slab is $2 to $3 finished. Site prep (leveling plus gravel base) is variable depending on terrain, subsoil, frost depth, and cost of gravel) Figure a few thousand.

On site build is about 50% of the materials. A good crew of 5 guys will do this in 3 or 4 days. But they have a tractor with an auger for the holes, a lift for setting the posts and the trusses, and everyone knows exactly what to do.

Steve B wrote:

"Jimmy Stewart" wrote

I can build a friggin house in a lot of locations in the US for less than $200 per sf.

Do they provide Vaseline with their services?

Make that three, Jimmy. There's no one on my list that tells me what to do.

Thank you for the intelligent concise answer. About what I was guessing.

Steve

Bet you make lots of friends that way, stevie.

plonk...

Well, no, I don't. But I can say the friends I have respect me, and I respect them.

Interestingly enough, last week a nationwide survey said that each person only has 2-3 people they consider "really good friends." I guess that makes me the exception, because I have more than that. I know about twenty people that I could count on at 2 AM to come where I am and help without asking for an explanation. And I would do the same for them.

Steve

It depends a lot on what you want to do with it of course. The prefab shed companies where I live seem to work on a markup of 100% of RETAIL materials price for the privilege of providing you with engineering plans and a big stack of materials. Erection is extra. A full slab is extra. Wiring & insulation is extra.

I am building a timber frame metal clad shop. The reason for the timber frame is simple. Having done this before, I realised that the first thing you do after building a pole frame structure is put in furring strips everywhere so you can hang pegboard, insulation etc. You end up spending nearly as much money doing this as you would for a full timber frame, so why not just do it.

The only other reason not to do this is if you're not going to have a full slab floor, or full footings. A pole shed allows you to get the structure up fast by embedding the posts in concrete and worrying about the dust free flat level floor later. However once the walls are on it's a lot harder to do the nice flat level floor.

I will add steel posts later, bolted to the concrete and tied to the hardwood studs, when I decide I need them for jib cranes etc.

Tomorrow the concrete slab goes down - another 19 m3 in addition to

16.5 m3 in the strip foorings. I already have all the timber framing cut & ready to erect. There's $6K in roofing iron, wall cladding, flashing, gutters etc and another $2K in doors/windows.

What I did to get the cladding price was assume the bldg was a box at max wall height and calculate the square metres of area, then ask for a quote on the material. Local suppliers quote per sq m so this works. This will give you a pretty good ballpark figure without having to work out every sheet length in advance; what you miss by not allowing for roof pitch you make up by not subtracting doors, windows etc. The material is cut to length when you order it and delivery typically is

2-5 days from placement of order round here so, for a DIY type, it's easiest to build the frame then measure the exact length you need to go from ridge to gutter etc than scale it off the plans.

HTH.

PDW

I can't help myself. Steve, where do you get off? I'm repeatedly reminded of that song Simply Unbelievable with your lack of logic. Seriously, you should have your wife take you to a specialist and check out that head injury you incurred.

Kinda like someone I know that will ask you a serious question say about evolution and get into the subject and then without warning turn around and say something like hahaha I fooled you I'm a christian fundamentalist and your nothing but a hell bound gentile with your arms flailing around like some crack headed punk with a loaded gun.

Honestly I'd rather spend an hour in a room with the crack-headed punk that ten minutes with the fundamentalist.

Never discuss evolution with christian fundamentalists. Better to stick to stuff they can almost understand, like the earth going around the sun, that sort of thing.

Darwin scares them.

Jim