What is it? CXLV

Hey you guys,

How about doing a subject change so that those of us NOT interested in other than direct answers to Robs photo questions/answers don't have to wander through all this.

It's not hard to do. Honest!

Please????

Brian Laws>Mark & Juanita wrote:

Hey you guys,

How about doing a subject change so that those of us NOT interested in other than direct answers to Robs photo questions/answers don't have to wander through all this.

It's not hard to do. Honest!

Please????

Brian Laws>>>>

Hey you guys,

How about doing a subject change so that those of us NOT interested in other than direct answers to Robs photo questions/answers don't have to wander through all this.

It's not hard to do. Honest!

Please????

Brian Laws>>

Subject change time, guys.

On 26 Nov 2006 02:30:14 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, "J. Clarke" quickly quoth:

Uh, were the MT farmers still doing 75mph through town?

I run _with_ traffic at 75-80 all day in Northern California on the way to the Bay Area for get-togethers with family. Ditto that run between there and GunnerLand(tm) last summer. I was in and saw no fatalities. I drove 85-100 on trips to COMDEX in Vegas every year, too. Speed isn't the factor which kills, inattention is. Stupid, inattentive drivers can cause wrecks and kill themselves or others at speeds of 20mph or less.

We should ban stupid people and inattentive drivers, eh? ;)

----- = Dain Bramaged...but having lots of fun! =

Likely Liberal Arts..with a major in Elizabethan Sonnets

Gunner

Political Correctness

A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

In which case they'll shorten the yellow time to trick you into running it.

The 15 and the 215 from Ontario California down to San Diego is an Autobahn. While the posted speed is 70 for much of it..staying at that speed will make you a road obstruction. I once pushed my poor old truck hard to keep up with the drivers in the #1 lane..and my speedo doesnt go that high, stopping at 85 mph.

Gunner

Political Correctness

A doctrine fostered by a delusional, illogical liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.

And if everyone did that, they'd reduce the limits until people didn't.

Here in the US, the speed limit is the legal maximum but the moral minimum.

Then either the light was malfunctioning, mistimed or the pickup driver lied. A red-light camera might have told you which it was; not much else; the woman would be as dead.

ROTFL. A libertarian PROSECUTOR? A libertarian who supports traffic laws? I think you know not the meaning of that word.

And if everyone kept on doing that, the Government would be forced to see sense, or risk crippling the economy (and being voted out of office at the next General Election).

You have a strange definition of morality. :-)

Defensive driving courses stipulate a two second interval between the light turning green, and the driver who has just received the green, entering the intersection; therefore, the young woman and/or anyone else timing the light dies of TERMINAL STUPIDITY, case closed! Gerry :-)} London, Canada

The above has no basis in fact------pure BS please cite your sources....

The #1 killer in MT on the highways is alcohol impaired drivers (we lead the nation in that department visit a reservation on payday) Heck the feds had to threaten to withold highway funding to get an open container law last year. Too fast for conditions gets a lot more. Not may freeways but lots of two lane highways with no shoulders no room for error. Till spring comes every few days someone hits some ice and gets killed. Current temp is 8 above and snowing.

ED

Okay, so I'm late and catching up, but Gunner wrote on Sun, 26 Nov 2006 20:55:21 GMT in rec.crafts.metalworking :

Vhen I vas in Chermany, I'd hold 110 kmph. Yep, that was me, in the right hand lane, mit der little old ladies. You get in the left lane, you're likely to get run over by produce truckers running flat out (because the speed cameras for trucks were aimed at the right hand lane. The things you learn because one of your drivers was Dutch and had been a commercial driver for a while.)

tschus pyotr

Just updated the answer page with the solution to number 833, it's a wrench for twisting wires, patent number 338,659.

Also updated the answer for the optic traffic detectors, I sent an email asking how they worked and the reply stated that these detectors use simple video technology to capture an image of the approach. When a vehicle enters the detection zone this image changes and the camera sends a signal to the controller that a vehicle is in a particular lane waiting for a green light.

Rob

According to R.H. :

O.K.

Which means that it *is* still a video camera -- just that the image is processed by a machine, looking for changes in specific zones. And I'll bet that there is also provision for actually viewing what they are showing, in case of things not changing for too long a period, which might indicate a serious traffic jam, or an accident.

Enjoy, DoN.

I based my original post on info from an article on the detectors in which they state:

"Motorists have been noticing an increasing number of intersections where camera-like devices have been mounted pointing down at traffic. The units which are not really cameras and do not video anything are highly sensitive optic detectors used to control the traffic signals."

They probably could just switch the software and use them to see the traffic but it sounds like they aren't set up for that presently.

Rob

George Orwell's singing, "1984 here I come, doo dah, doo dah!"

Sitting on the sensor coil (three car lengths back of the stop bar) to get the advance left signal, I looked in the mirror to see one of our traffic cars pull in behind. The officer driving had a big grin on her face and gave me a wave as the advance arrow came on. The two drivers in the opposing turn lane did not appear to be amused. Gerry :-)} London, Canada

If that design guaranteed safety then motorcycles would be the safest vehicles on the road. It's actually pretty close to a VW Microbus or any number of vans, none of which have a particularly shiny safety record.

Hell, horse drawn vehicles occasionally suffered fatal accidents, and there you have not only the driver's instinct for self-preservation in play but also that of the horse.