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You are confused. The cell phone companies are in a different business. Verizon may own a public telephone company, but most of the US has public phone companies owned by someone else. The phone companies providing landline phone service are still regulated entities regardless of who owns what.

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rickman
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I have 300 MB/sec down and 50 up. Some folks have gigabit. This is not your father's Internet.

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J. Clarke

You know nothing compels you to get your phone from your internet provider. Microsoft provides unlimited worldwide service for $14.99/month, plus $25 every three if you want a number that people can call. Google has something similar.

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J. Clarke

Yes, they're regulated, but most of them are under price caps, not rate of return. So long as they don't exceed the price caps, the regulators don't care what their capital investment or profit is.

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John Levine

That is an expensive option unless you make a *lot* of calls, there are providers where you pay for all calls but the rate to most places is under a cent per minute.

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Ahem A Rivet's Shot

Where are you?

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rickman

Connecticut, near the MA border, north of Hartford.

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J. Clarke

Wow! Even on the rural west coast of Ireland I get 70Mbps fixed wireless, in the nearest town gigabit is on offer but the fibres don't get out here.

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Ahem A Rivet's Shot

I guess you don't have to wait long for web pages to load. Some pages with a lot of "fluff" content (video, images, overlays) take a bit to load here. It never occurred to me it was download time vs. just browser time. Do you see the same things?

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rickman

Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote on 12/24/2017 1:45 AM:

I'm in the middle of no and where. There's no cable. I was lucky enough to get a wireless provider who doesn't sell a cell phone like plan with data caps, etc. The PC software says I use around 60 GB a month which would be a major extra charge with most wireless providers.

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rickman

I think it is Carmarthen. But it is now about 30 years that I have been there, but it was a very nice holiday.

'Andreas

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Andreas Eder

Even a public utility is no guarentee.

California Power and LIght (think that is the name, or close) went under. I don't know all the details about it but I do know I lost about $ 2000 worth of stock that I had invested in them. The company continued to produce poewr,but the owners (stock holders) lost everything.

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Ralph Mowery

I just checked at

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and it is 236 Mbps down and

11.9 Mbps up.

That is just the starting speed here. It is in and around a small town in North Carolina. About a year ago it was 25 Mbps downlink for the basic rate. Now they are advertising 100 Mbps as the starting speed on the web site,but a television commercial was stating 200 Mbps as the basic speed for a larger town about 20 miles away.

I think much of the speed hold up now is not on this end, but how fast the sites on the internet can get their data uploaded to the internet.

I don't download that many large files, but downloaded a copy of Microsoft Office 16 or 2016 or something like that to a laptop that was connected wireless at my house at 65 Mbps. Took almost no time. I remember trying to use the phone modems at 14.4K baud or whatever and downloading just a 1 or 2 megabit file and it taking around an hour.

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Ralph Mowery

The big bottleneck right now seems to be DNS lookup time.

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J. Clarke

I wouldn't get phone service from Microsoft if it were the last company on earth. They're about the only company I consider worse than XFinity in that respect. I don't want a phone that crashes three times a day.

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Jerry Stuckle

I don't recall Skype _ever_ crashing. This "crashes three times a day" business from people who last used Windows 30 years ago is getting boring.

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J. Clarke

Even my Windows 7 Professional crashes on a semi-regular basis - at least once or twice a week. Applications crash for no reason even more often. But my Linux system on the same machine never crashes.

And yes, I have had Skype crash enough times I don't use it any more - and haven't fore at least 3-4 years. Maybe it's better now but I don't trust it.

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Jerry Stuckle

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