So can a trebouchet. They oughta be illegal. Damn commies and their French
weapons of mass destruction!
So can gasoline, but I'll bet ol' George puts a halt to regulation of that
little number real quick!
Oil-soaked rags can, too. In combination with #2 it's called a Molotov
Well, heck, I do declare that I feel safer already what with all this dangerous
stuff regulated and controlled by the gov'ment. What was folks thinkin',
playing with all this here terrorist threats all these years? And bringin'
their youngin's up with it, too. Darn commies! Thanks, George and John, for
makin' this here ol' country safer fer me 'n mine!
C program run. C program crash. C programmer quit.
I think we'll see a nationally syndicated news item before too long
no, I don't "know", but since the article mentions that a reporter
released the information I take that as a strong indication that he is
working on something for publication
W. E.Fred Wallace wrote:
What will be interesting an analyzed carefully, is the comparison
between the ATF PA news release and the report released through the
Justice Department, in response to the senate (Enzi's) request for
Ismaeel Abdur-Rasheed wrote:
Or at least it must have been reported to them that way.
Just as the van story was reported through 2 at minimum trusted
rocketeers with mil contacts. If that is also true, fine, but if not
then they were subjected to falsified stories to feel free to report.
By "trusted" sources no less.
Since falsifications NOT under orders in that environment is a federal
crime perhaps the solution to truth finding is to bring charges.
Jerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA
Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to: firstname.lastname@example.org>
so lets review shall we:
so lets review:
in their infamous letter to the senate judiciary claiming that high power
rockets could be used to shoot down airliners, their tests show that was not
true.... they also stated that they could be used as anti-tank weapons from
5 miles away...well it also turns out that wasn't true either....
So now they say HPR could be used to drop CBW agents ......well so could,
airplanes, model airplanes, model helicopters,passenger vehicles,
pedestrians, homing pigeons, hot air balloons, kites,mosquitoes,etc etc
etc.........So if they want the capital Mall area of DC to be CBW free, why
not just BAN everything from its vicinity? DOHHHH.....
and we all know that just about anything you place in a vessel can be made
to explode, nothing new there....isn't there a 50lb BP exemption for
shooters? I mean that stuff is used to make more bombs than APCP ever has or
will be used.....Why can't we have a 50lb exemption on APCP for rocketry
purposes? same difference to me...
I do hope that if and when the orgs etc do rebut the new claims they are
sure to point out their earlier invalid and down right lying claims
and to think my tax dollars paid for these bozos to coem to these
conclusions....the mind boggles.....
IMO, reasonable weight limits is the path we need to explore in
earnest, as one way or another, like it or not, APCP will be an ATFE
regulated substance. However, our safety record is better than the
amateur fireworks groups and sporting firearms activities, both in
numbers and percentages of member comparisons. In fact, APCP fueled
rocket related incidents, involving personal injury and serious
property damage, directly related to rocketry, is almost nil. If
those two groups can have a "recreational" 50lb limit on BP, sport
rocketry should be able to have an equal to or greater weight limit
of "unregulated/exempt" APCP.
Phil Stein wrote:
The difference is that firearms groups have the lobby power of a
millions-strong organization, and we have the lobby power of a fractious,
infighting couple of thousand-strong set of organizations.
The difference has nothing to do with whether or not anything is explosive
Nothing earthshattering here.
They discovered that rockets can deliver a payload. Wow. So can a Ryder
truck, and it's much more accurate, holds a lot more, and requires no
They discovered that you can put APCP in a sealed container and cause an
explosion. Big whoop. You can do the same thing with propane, gasoline
vapors, and even grain dust.
I'm SOOO glad we are wasting our tax dollars on regulating hobby rocket
And it just warms my heart that those stupid democratic senators eat this
stuff up, and make a big show out of protecting us all from such clear
There's good news here! Yes, good news!
ATF did not completely fabricate a Hollywood propaganda film.
Or at least they must have failed so miserably at it that they decided
to simply report the facts with as much spin as they figured they
could get away with.
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