Save Rocketry Now - Update

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = There's Still Time!!!
Due to the overwhelming positive manufacturer response to the raffle for
the legal expenses incurred by the sport rocket community, we've decided to extend the deadline to buy tickets. There are some really tremendous prize packages being assembled by our raffle team, all due to the generosity of the sport rocket manufacturing community. To make sure as many people have opportunities to purchase tickets as possible, we'll be asking our local clubs to consider making raffle tickets available at their upcoming launches. We'll also be making special arrangements at national events this summer to promote the tickets.
However, all good things can't go on forever, so we're setting the new time limit in a slightly different way. Raffle ticket sales will be cut off at $40,000. When we have sold that amount, we'll cease selling raffle tickets, get an announcement back out to all raffle ticket holders, and conduct the raffle within 10 days. If sales fail to reach the $40,000 target, then the final date for ticket sales will be at the end of the NAR National Model Rocket Championships (NARAM), August 5, 2005.
Manufacturers have responded to the challenge of protecting our hobby with their generous donations. Why not show your support, and perhaps sweeten your range box or workshop with some really excellent rocketry merchandise? You can see the great list of donations from 27 generous vendors at:
http://www.saverocketrynow.org/prizes.asp
and you can purchase tickets online with either a credit card or via PayPal at:
http://www.saverocketrynow.org/entries.asp
And don't forget that every time you buy 5 tickets, we throw in ticket #6 for free!
Please help support the fight to protect your rights to a safe, educational and fun hobby.
Mark Bundick, President, National Association of Rocketry Ken Good, President, Tripoli Rocketry Association
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As a footnote, since the dates have changed a bit, for anyone who participated up to, and including, May 15th, if you would like a refund of your contribution and it will be done.
-Kevin
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Why is there so much secrecy about how much has been collected to date?
-- David

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David wrote:

Sorry, no desire at secrecy. Collection to date is $10290, plus at least one pending one I haven't added in yet. I don't know what's in the mail, or what has been submitted via PayPal in the last 12 hours, though.
I will be adding an indicator to the site sometime this week.
-Kevin
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Good.
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Excellent, thanks!
And thanks for all your efforts to raise money for these good causes.
-- David

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David wrote:

date?
What secrecy??? Have you asked? The amount was posted on the TRA list.
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That clearly explains the secrecy claim. The TRA list itself is secret!!
Jerry
"Ray can't see the obvious, even when HE points it out!!"
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Kevin - You're doing a great job, THANK YOU!
Everybody else - As one of the vendors who donated I would like to thank eveybody that has participated. I also realize that putting our legal fight together is a thankless job, but it is very much appreciated. It saddens me to think that our world could loose the future engineers, scientists and who knows who else because of this fight we are having to do. I can't imagine a better way to introduce young minds to science, math and physics then rocketry. Not to mention all of the different types of people the rocketry community has in it that become friends and mentors. All groups will have some problems, but I can say that 99% of the people I have dealt with over the years are fine people! A big thanks to "the rocketry community", I have been lucky and look forward to many years of rocketry.
Best regards, Steve
---------------------- Steven Kosmerchock * XAVIEN * Phoenix, Az USA www.xavien.com snipped-for-privacy@xavien.com
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wrote:

LOL!! Jerry made a funny while TRA was transmitting into his imagination.
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Jerry Irvine wrote:

The list is not secret; at least to TRA members.. :)

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Jerry Irvine wrote:

list.
secret!!
It's not "secret", it's just not available to everyone. But that's beside the point. The real point is that when people asked, the answer was given. David apparently just jumped to the conclusion that there was some kind of "secrecy" regarding the sales totals, without even bothering to ask.
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Jerry
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Is this just a TRA fundraiser? That was not my understanding.
I was just making a conclusion based on the numerous postings that never had the total (one of the first postings did), and the website that never had the total. Don't take Jerry's turn of the word "secrecy" into a consipracy as anything related to what I said.
And, by the way, I am a TRA member that has chosen not to subscribe to the list. Imagine that. Why would I want a bunch more e-mail?
And, I did bother to ask, and Kevin answered. It was all strikingly civil. Then you guys started cat fighting again, like you do after almost every post. It's getting tiring.
-- David
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Especially content-free email.

Um, it got tiring 6 years ago.
Now it is just mindless fixation.
Jerry
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Jerry Irvine wrote:

you think It's been only six years? you ARE on glue!

jerry, it's your fixation, you can have it as mindless as you want.

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See?
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snipped-for-privacy@aol.com wrote:

Ray? As jerry pointed out, that's only semi-public, and this is an effort that goes beyond Tripoli.
The current total is $10,580. That does not include anything that might literally be in the mail, nor does it include any PayPal info not yet forwarded to me.
-Kevin
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That is a good way to do it. Good job.
Jerry

Ironical.
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