Has anyone used either kit and used a combo of....
#1 available etched and resin sets. eg flightpath and airwaves #2 the blue steel parts [off an Airfix Avro Vulcan] #3 various decal sheets
to do
#1 a blue steel equiped Victor. #2 a HP Victor SR2 #3 Victor B2, XM715 (i think) that was still flying in dark green, dark gray and light aircraft grey, with 543 sqn in the 1970 to 1974 timespan.
trevor
No but I do have the FlightPath set. Ialso have an article somewhere on converting the K2 back to a B2. Email me direct if you want it.
David Womby
A simpler question.....for all the "hoopla" that the Matchbox Victor created when first released (I bought mine....lol).....has ANYONE ever seen one built?
:o)
There's always mine :) I built it long ago and far away, but it's built. One of these days I'll finish my second one and do a better job...
Same here - built mine when it first came out - what? - 15+ years ago ??
I can't recall any major problems with it - except for maybe the seams/shape on the engineintakes.
I do remember that I re-shaped the two pop-up intakes near the fin as they are the wrong shape - or is my memory playing tricks again?
The completed model is sitting in a box somewhere in my shed - it hasn't been brought out for years!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast Flankers Website -Ken I did the instruction sheet for that kit in 1980 IIRC that's 23 years ago, I have built 6 or 7 of them two of which we presented to the squadrons at Marham and are now in the sqdn memorabilia, I remember that well as I and Maurice had an accident on the way home in my new car.
in article snipped-for-privacy@earthNOSPAMlink.net, Greg Heilers at snipped-for-privacy@earthNOSPAMlink.net wrote on 5/12/03 23:45:
Yes I have built 2 but now I think I could build one properely.
"87015" wrote in message news: snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com...
Sort of. I've got the Etched brass set from Flightpath, but I don't think I'll use much of it (not much of an etched brass fan). Used the resin intakes that came in the set though. Quite an involved and fiddly build to cut away the fuselage (much tweaking and dry fitting) and to prepare the splitter plates for the intakes. Looks pretty good when done though. I'm not sure what Flightpath include in the set nowadays, but if they include the cast fairings for the top of the fin and the fairing for the Artouste APU under the starboard wing, that can be useful. I've also tried using the Blue Steel parts; for this you want "Post War Jets", published by Argus Books, ISBN 0-85242-940-1, for the plans originally published in Scale Models magazine. You have to remove and fill the integral ventral refuelling position in the kit, but apart from that it seems to fit OK. I've seen reports that there is a separate fairing at the back of the missile, but I can't find any decent references to it. What's going to be more difficult is to scratch build the heat exchanger unit to mount on the fuselage to the port side of the missile nose. Other mods: extend each wing tip equivalent to one and a half feet (also relevant for the SR.2), add the Red Steer Rear Warning Radar to the tailcone (I'm going to borrow the tail radome from the Airfix Vulcan, but the blisters around it are going to be more problematic) and fill in the slots for the underwing tanks and refuelling pod pylons. I'm not sure if any of the recent decal sheets do markings for a Blue Steel aircraft; if not and you want the 100 Sqn or 139 Sqn markings, search out a Volume 5, Number 7 (April 1983) copy of Scale Aircraft Modelling, that included a free decal sheet for aircraft of these squadrons.
Jon.
I found this nice link. The kit really looks COOL when done in the all-white scheme!
On a similar note: Has anyone built the old Contrail Valiant kit? It's another one I keep eyeballing on a regular basis....lol.
there was a guy at the IPMS{UK} show at Telford that was asking the very same question. fact is if you had one of this kit that you mentioned, he was ok for paying a whole heap of readies for it.
all i'd like to see is a 1/72 scale full-run injection molded of the valiant.
then i'd have the perfect excuse for another set of the _excellent_ belcher bits RAF nuclear weapons set and an op' grapple diorama. :)
tthe flightpath detail set covers the victor K1 and K2, but some of the parts are very useful for a B1/B1A/B2/B2R and SR2
i was able thanks to a nice guy at IPMS [UK] mercia, able to get a copy of the SAM decal sheet that you mention, jon and it is just what i'm looking for.
in the >kit, but apart from that it seems to fit OK. I've seen reports that there is a >separate fairing at the back of the missile, but I can't find any decent >references to it.
afair, the blue steel's used by the Victor B2/B2R were slightly different to those used under the Vulcan. alot has to do with the limited ground clearance.
the _excellent_ book by andrew brooks on the Victor and pub'd by ian allan in the 1980's has some details on what the differences were, but i do not have the book to hand.
lets us all know on r.m.s how you do the red steer and ecm blisters on the tailcone.
pylons.
some blue steel victors _did_ carry the underwing tanks. check some of the available references.
thanks though for the stuff you wrote jon, it has pointed me in the right direction. just waiting for the delivery of a 1/72 Airfix Blue Steel, now. i have even been promised one of them!
trevor
Be aware that Flightpath do two sets: They do a Mk.1 conversion and a K2 set. I believe that they both come with the etched brass fret; the K2 conversion has the resin intakes for the Conway engines; mine had metal parts for the fin fairings, and the set may now also include the APU bulge. The K1 set has new inboard wings with the smaller intakes and exhausts for the Sapphire engines, and new metal wingtips. As far as I recall, they are the same chord as the kit wingtips would be if cut at the same panel line, but mine don't have a representative aerofoil. Also, it's up to you to remove the fairings from the wing trailing edge and fill the gap.
Lucky. Of course in theory it should be possible to print a scan of this sheet onto clear decal film; as the aircraft in question are white, the markings should come out OK.
My copy doesn't mention any differences in the Blue Steel, just that it took a lot of effort to modify the aircraft to fit it and then the sort of respect a megaton class device strapped to a tank of rocket fuel with 14 inches of ground clearance commmands to operate it.
The tail cone radar fairing was to be donated by an Airfix Vulcan converted to a B.1 using the Newark IPMS / DB Models / Flightpath conversion. The blisters are more of a challenge, due to their small size. I figured that a small length of sprue, glued to the end of another sprue to be sanded to shape, then cut off and glued to the kit would be the best way. But I'm not sure. Then I need to add the heat exchanger unit and the APU bulge. Anyway, don't hold your breath, the kit has been in the loft for about five years waiting for the other wingtip to be extended, so it's not going anywhere in a hurry.
Indeed, but I haven't found any pictures of aircraft in the white high altitude scheme with the tanks. I suspect that when they went low altitude (and added the camoflage) the tanks were added to improve range. I'm tempted by one (or a B.1A) as an example of aircraft where the under surface colour wrapped up over the leading edge, but that would be a bit too retentive.
The Ian Allen book is a good place to start for reference material; Scale Models International magazine did a conversion article in their January 1988 issue, including plans if you can get hold of a copy.
Jon.
is a nice kit after some work, check out at
thanks meindert.
the models of the victor in anti-flash white are exquiste and will be very helpful, etc.
trevor
PolyTech Forum website is not affiliated with any of the manufacturers or service providers discussed here. All logos and trade names are the property of their respective owners.