OT: July 4th - 10 great things about America

you mean you don't like hanging chads?

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Craig
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Thanks

Frank

Reply to
Gray Ghost

It is too darn hot in Australia. Who would want the place? Give it back to the rooos, mate, as we should give Nebraska and Texas back to the buffalo herds and Indians. Then we could add buffalo burgers to the McDonald's menu

By the way, I like the Outback Steak houses here in the US. Only problem, they give you too much food.

I do agree that American clothing fashion leaves much to be desired. Last time I saw a women in a dress and high heels, well that was too long ago to remember. Now this IS a crime against humanity which you can justly complain about.

I have business clients, wall street investment banker types, who wear jogging suits to the office. Yeah gads. The fashion world is going to the dogs.

.../V Estes Park, Colorado, USA

P.S. The only reason American personel never leave the Pine Gap base is because, face it, there is not much to see or do in Australia. You see the Sydney Opera House once, and that is about it. Out of interesting options. I hear the personel at Pine Gap get hardship duty pay bonuses.

Other problem, since Australia is in the Southern Hemisphere, upside down, the blood rushes to everyone's head so they can't think straight. This is why so much beer is consumed in Australia. It dilutes the blood so that at least some of the people can function. It must be tiresome to always have to be hanging onto the earth with your toes. And getting the beer up the gullet can be problematical.

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Vess Irvine

your comments display some knowledge of the history of my country but little real understanding, I am well aware of all you have said (probably more so than you are). Like many though you seem to approach history with a very one eyed perspective. it is often said that history is written by the winning side and as such it is tainted by the bias of perspective of that side. I would not be so foolish to say that Japan was right in the actions they undertook in WW2 or that no atrocities were committed by my nation. But only a fool would take the view that none were committed by any of the "allied" forces also. War is an evil thing which has never brought anything but sadness and shame to humanity. I could write many more lines detailing such things and raising arguments as to whether the atomic weapons needed to be used but I feel in this forum such efforts would be pointless and inappropriate.

My initial post was made in fun as a joke of sorts and not intended to cause offence, some have obviously read it in that context and responded accordingly. But others have not and have lead this thread into areas that raise painful memories that are best left undisturbed. Thus I have decided to leave this thread, you may take it where you will but I shall respond no further on this matter. Oyasumiasai

Reply to
Umineko

Man, I'll bet you love "The X Files".

Bill Shuey

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William H. Shuey

Funny, that sums up my own view of many other nations' politics, especailly so called "progressive" ones.

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SamVanga
2 'parties' is politics? I musta missed something, somewhere......

RobG (the Aussie one)

Reply to
Rob Grinberg

You mean the evening news show?

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SamVanga

Keep it up, Artie. The comedy lessons WILL eventually take....

RobG (the Aussie one)

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Rob Grinberg

Frank, Not to inflame anything here, but the atomic drops on Japan didn't just affect the Japanese. My ex-wife's uncle was there with his ship's crew to help clean up and almost every one of the crew have died from some sort of cancer or like disease. He has cancer of the spine and is dead set scared of what's going to happen.

Just my comment on the post

RobG (the Aussie one)

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Rob Grinberg

MEMO To: The World Subject: Politicians Query: If we ignore them, will they just go away?

RobG (the Aussie one)

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Rob Grinberg

Just remember, if it were for are presence in the South Pacific during WWII, you might well be speaking Japanese.

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"Rob Grinberg" wrote in news:3f07e9ea snipped-for-privacy@news.chariot.net.au:

He has cancer 60+ years on and you blame what? He certainly has my sympathies.

But if the alternative was the invasion of Japan proper, 1 million plus allied casualties and the extinction of the Japanese race what would your choice be?

Sometimes all the chocies are bad. Having to choose may be painful, bur the weight of events forced a decision. Who are we to second guess?

Frank

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Gray Ghost

What, you mean like the aborigine extermination programs? oh, wait, that was the Aussies.

Reply to
Scott Lowther

Indeed. The eye trained to be civilized and honorable, two concepts wholly lacking in Japan prior to 1946.

GASP! You mean the Japanese just might not ahve been right to:

  • Torture prisoners of war
  • Toruture civilians in conquered regions
  • Use live prisoners for bio-weapons experimentation
  • Launch wars of aggression and conquest

I'm stunned, truly. Next you'll say that bayonetting Chinese babies might be "inappropriate"!

Reply to
Scott Lowther

chileans, japanese, russian, inuit, cree, tartars, magyars, minoans, mexicans, mayans, aztecs, moche, aleutes.......

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e

Umm, actually no. The Japanese NEVER intended to invade Australia. The knew they had neither the manpower nor the resources to do so. The nearest landing point would have been Darwin and even in this modern era it's a helluva long way from Darwin to anywhere else in the country - in 1940 it would have been a nightmare. When you work out the distances on a map and then do some outback touring it makes you realise the (almost) impossible task of anyone, ever, invading Australia in the old-fashioned way. I live on the Queensland coast - our state capital is 1100km south, the top of the state is about double that to the north.

No offence, but don't swallow the oft repeated tales handed out by the 'historians' in the political and military arenas.

RobG (the Aussie one)

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Rob Grinberg

Not just him - most of the crew. And yes, I agree with the dropping of the bombs - it saved a lot of lives in combat. There's a book I have that I loaned to someone (can't remember who, worse luck!) written by one of the guys who was involved with Col. Tibbets and the whole thing on Tinian - if I remember the title, or who I gave it to, I'll post it here - a damn fine read.

RobG (the Aussie one)

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Rob Grinberg

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Rob Grinberg

Actuully, the only such extermination program taht I can think of the the Aussie one. The Brits under Amhearst did the bit with the smallpox-laden blankets on the Injuns, but there was, so far as I know, no equivalent extermination program anywhat other than Australia. A "rob them of their land and stuff and convert 'em to Christianity" program, sure.

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Scott Lowther

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