OT: July 4th - 10 great things about America

Number 1 great thing about America... it's not here :)

you got oil? wannabe a state?

Yep we got oil and no don't want to be a state... don't get me wrong I like Americans, didn't even mind living in the US but I just really hate the politics

politics? we got politics?

Neither would Australia be here, without an America ..... /V

I don't care for it much either, however I'm sure there's some there, too.

Bill Banaszak, MFE

Sure there is but we generaly try to confine it to within our own borders.

Numba' one thing about America; let's see, uhhh .....that you're not here :~)

"Far better it is to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs even though checkered by failure than to take rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy much nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat"

Let's see...got my list here:

Afghanistan: check Iraq: check Syria: 2004 Iran: 2004 Saudi Arabia: 2005

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• ah, here it is! Australia: 2009

Good things come to those who wait.

:-)

I'll just move back to Japan...

it's like religion, flies amd hoes.

"Umineko" wrote in news:3f06e118$ snipped-for-privacy@news.comindico.com.au:

We already bombed the snot out of them. They are much better behaved now.

Frank

I was born in Kure and my parents were from Hiroshima, perhaps if you had experienced the ongoing horrors that were inflicted upon the people there you might not be such an asshole. Both of my parents were born after the war and both subsequently died at a young age of radiation induced cancer. your comments show clearly your ignorance of such things and only serve to reinforce the comment I made that started this whole thread .

And what of the horrors inflicted on the world by the Japanese? Japan got what it deserved.

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Don't take credit for something you didn't say. You did *not* start this thread. It was cwcrofoot that started this thread by posting what was a simple congratulatory note. And, it was *you*, and you alone, that opened the floodgates to the barrage you're now complaining about by making an obviously inflammatory remark. If I were you, I'd take a step back and check how you're coming accross to everyone else. In the meantime, take care not to fall from your soap box.

"Umineko" wrote in news:3f07183e$ snipped-for-privacy@news.comindico.com.au:

. Your beef is with Tojo and the generals who thought that the rest of the workd was thiers for the taking. Who slaughtered women and children in China, who abused, tortured and neglected prisoners of war unto thier death in such a manner that beggars the credibilty of a civilized mind, who continued to fight a losing was well past the point where defeat was inevitable killing 100,000s of Japanese, abandoned on indefensible islands to kill and be killed. Who in the summer of 1945 with your cities bombed and burnt, your merchant fleet at the bottom of the Pacific unable to bring the absolute neccesities ie food and oil to the civil population (since Japan has little in the way of domestic supplies) continued thier absurd fantasy that they could somehow make the Americans sue for peace despite the obvious fact that we would not and were quite capable and prepared to invade Japan. Who were prepared to let Japan and the Japanese people and culture be extinguished by famine, disease, dehydration and exhaustion in the winter of 1945-1946 since there was no food, no clean water, no medecine or medical facilities whilst conducting an unwinnable battle in order to save a ridiculous concept called face.

Who chose of thier own free will to stupidly, treacherously, decietfully attack the US Pacific fleet on Sunday morning without a formal declaration of war without correctly assessing the probable response.

The real criminals in that war were those that went to war and though thier actions caused the death of millions of thier own citizens.

WWII in Asia started in Machuria in 1932 with the intial Japanese aggressions. It ended in ashes in 1945. You want to blame someone look to your leaders.

Should America sacrificed a million casualties in an invasion of Japan which inevitably would have resulted in the extermination of Japan? No and I have no regrets. The US was and continues to be about the most benefical occupier of conquered nations in history.

We didn't start it and frankly we were better to Japan than we had to be.

Take up your objections with Hideki Tojo.

Frank

Mate, they don't need to invade us. We let them in during WW2 and they liked the place so much, they've been slowly infiltrating our shores ever since, trying to get back. That's why we are now able to do wonderful things like eat the shittiest food in the world (McDonalds), wear the stupidest looking clothes in the history of fashion (skater gear), watch sitcoms that lack the "com" factor and bastardise our language with words and phrases that make no sense whatsoever.

In a carefully planned operation to sneak back in with the humans, the CIA orchestrated the removal of the Whitlam government in 1975 then followed it up by dropping a large weapon weapon of mass destruction (carefully disguised as Skylab) on us in 1979! Luckily, it didn't go off and they left us alone for a while.

But while all this was going on, they were secretly constructing the

51st US state, right here in the middle of Australia - it's called Pine Gap. The high-tech military base is almost entirely underground and is guarded by hundreds of gung-ho US personnel. Pine Gap is staffed by a sizeable US population, who are rarely (if ever) allowed off the base. C-5 Galaxy transports fly into the base every 48 hours, and groceries are flown in from California every week! The saddest part of the whole thing is that the US still think we are stupid enough to believe that the base is a "Space Research Facility".

Y'gotta love 'em.

Well said.....

Barry

"Both of my parents were born after the war and both subsequently died at a young age of radiation induced cancer."

And how, exactly, is it known and proven that the cancer was caused by our bomb's radiation? As opposed to some other source of radiation or perhaps not radiation at all? The smartest doctor in the world can't look at a cancer and say "it came from X source of radiation, not from a stray particle from a brick or something".

In any case, the fault is on the part of the Japanese leadership and those who obeyed them rather than string them up. You don't get to pick a fight and then call yourself a victim when you lose. And don't give me the "but the US was limiting our oil supply!" nonsense. War *uses* oil. It is not a source. If you have enough oil for war, don't try and claim you are warring from a lack of oil.