What Kit have you bought more than once and never finished any of them?

Early Tube no corrugated ends

That is a Pipe wagon (SOV) running number

there any museums or such in lima?

Nope but there was a place for two of the SA electrics, slightly rebuilt for US use. I was warped at an early age to believe that electrics were the way to go railroading. The Philly-Harrisburg line runs through here. :)

Bill Banaszak, MFE

Yes, those are quite similar to the US style. Walthers.com carries plenty of rolling stock of both US and European vintage for those interested.

I noted the exit on the side. Does that mean there's a crew to sweep/shovel the load out or does the "box" tilt on the frame? tia

The Keeper (of too much crap)

Thanks Martin. What's a brake van do? It looks mildly reminiscent of a US caboose. tia

The Keeper (of too much crap)

Lima? We have a railroad museum in Strasburg, Pa. right across the road from the Strasburg Railroad. The Museum has two GG1s and an E44 along with various diesels and steam. Some parts of the museum have been seen in History Channel shows over the years. IIRC, it's also been seen on "Tracks Ahead" on your local PBS station.

Bill Banaszak, MFE

lima oh, figured a train guy would know. after all, you did know the victorville yard.

Firstly most UK trains are now air braked, but there used to be a lot of vacuum braked stuff. However before about 1950 (and a few afterwards) a lot of wagons were built with no continous brakes, these trains needed a brake van.

They were a PITA because they were restricted to very low speeds.

Brake vans were occasionally used on fully fitted trains as well - mainly if the train had to be reversed.

Guards now normally travel in the rear cabs.

One brief web page on the history of the 16-ton mineral wagon:

Side doors and usually an end door too, but no tilt. The white stripe on the body side indicates the end with the door on it. Unloading would be by hand.

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First, thanks for taking the time to reply. I go back a way with GW myself, as a customer. I used to have a hand-written credit note from a time they failed to provide me with all of an order I placed with them for Minifig 15mm strips, sometime in the '70s, and I'm still using "Fiend Factory" series figures! However, when Nick Lund departed for "Grenadier" a lot of my custom went with him, and that's where I developed a taste for Mark Copplestones' work.

I've been toying with the idea of taking up WH40K for a while, as several friends play it. I've been inclining towards Speed Freeks, as I like the idea of scratchbuilding Heath-Robinson Battlewagons. However, it's not a priority item, so I'll be waiting at least until I hear how the new version of the rules plays.

I had high hopes of the latest version, as the emphasis appeared to have shifted from characters to unit tactics, but the army books have appear to have moved things back again. L However, a friend has been dragged into it by a younger relative, and I might end keeping them company. I could do Imperials or Dogs of War, I stashed away quite a bit of that stuff for possible use in Renaissance armies when there was a lot of it going cheap in a sale a few years ago.

I'm looking more towards a skirmish on the lines of Mordheim or Necromunda, with a fairly dense urban terrain and small numbers of figures - preferably only five or six per "unit", that way someone need only to invest in a single blister of "Street Violence " or "Future Wars" figures to participate. I'm also attempting to interest members of our club (which is mainly comprised of role-play gamers) in some tabletop action, with multiple players in a game, not necessarily split between two formal sides. The rules will necessarily be a bit simplistic and (hopefully) generic, so players can personalise the characteristics of their own gang/faction.

As for terrain, I'm not looking at something as devastated as a "Cityfight" or Stalingrad set up, more a decrepit but still just about functioning urban society. That's what your intended use of GT40s put me in mind of, one of those would really look in place, especially up on bricks in an alley with the wheels stolen, or painted as a Police Car. If you do fancy a wrecked car as part of your scenery, check out:

've got one of those and it's a nice casting.

Apart from buying in (but not yet painting) some Ainsty stuff, my only step towards such a terrain was buying three porcelain buildings designed as "collectibles" and which join together to form a length of what looks like a 1950s small-town USA main street. There was at least one other in the series, but they were all I could manage when they were being sold off in the local remnants shop. They're too fragile to take to the club, but will be OK for use at home, and stuck in the cabinet as a background against which to display my figures - when I get some painted! I've put a few shots of them over on alt.binaries.models.scale, as a picture will always better my powers of explanation. I was going to do some repainting, but if I board up some windows and put shuttering and mesh on others, they'll probably do as they are.

No games room or table, but my late parents indulged me by permitting a glass fronted cabinet (which I got cheap in a sale) in the living room. Unfortunately the doors aren't dust tight, I'd have been better off with open shelves and display cases.

website, I mean.

I have the Revell Mech Recovery vehicle from the "Robotech" series somewhere, and an approx. 1:48 rather crude snap together articulated low-loader, but these are sufficiently large to count as terrain rather than vehicles.

Not any more, but I still have some "Battlecars" and "Dark Future" stuff around somewhere... It's a crying shame they made the "Dark Future" stuff that little bit smaller in size.

They're from something called "Cyberformula", if that means anything to you. I'll stick a shot of some of the boxes over on a.b.m.s as well.

Well, the proprietor of Foundry, and some of the figure ranges are ex- GW... But the Perrys' (and Copplestone) don't do work for Foundry any more, having parted company (not particularly amicably, ISTR) and set up their own brands. I haven't come across either of the Perrys myself in donkeys years - since back when they were still identical twins, in fact. I can't recall which it was, actually, but there's always been some uncertainty with that. A friend who attended the last UK Games Day bar one (she didn't make last years) said they spent quite a while standing against walls with their right arms behind their back, so people still couldn't tell them apart :) Being in "Saving Private Ryan" and "Band of Brothers" seems to have had an effect on Mike, I was told they've bought themselves a tank since,

1:1 scale.

I'm kind of partial to Ground Zero Games, myself, as far as Sci-fi goes. However, I did invest heavily in "Battlefleet Gothic" because of a similarity in some aspects (on first reading) to the "General Quarters" rules which I'd previously used for naval Wargaming. I'm regretting not getting into "Warmaster", as while it didn't seem to do anything "Hordes of the Things" didn't do in a simpler fashion, I've now been told the command system is actually rather good - a friend was using an adaptation of it last weekend to game the Blitzkreig in France using

15mm scale figures.

I have some of those already, definitely the best thing GW have done in a while, at least in plastic.

new box? I've heard the crashed spacecraft scenery is a bit naff, though.

Or were. The shift to single-piece body-plus-legs for recent ranges (like the Bretonnian infantry) is a retrograde step IMO. I was particularly pissed off by the Beastmen, having waited ages for them. I grabbed a box as soon as they hit the shelves, and have done nothing at all with them since. Normally I'd assemble one or two straight away, just out of curiosity.

Regards,

We've got a Lima locomotive engine in a giant display case on Metcalf Street between High and Market. West of it on Market St (on High St, too, but it is ONE WAY the wrong way) is the Allen County Museum, but nothing on railroading that I remember (although it's been a while).

Elsewhere, they sometimes display some military equipment outside the gates of the Lima Tank Plant... er, The Joint Systems Manufacturing Center, now.

That's it of interest to modelers... unless you want to study the structures of a life-sized oil refinery. Alas, under the prevailing conditions, if you walk around taking pictures of it you are sure to be apprehended.

no photos of lima tankog--joint whatever?

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There was the possibility you were asking about the manufacturer of the SA electrics. That was a now (I think) defunct Italian HO manufacturer. Lima could also be a town in Ohio or a loco builder. Strasburg surely has at least one example of Lima's products. They have one each Shay, Heisler and Climax, all geared steam engines. Without checking my library, I know Lima made one of those. I've never seen Ohio except in pictures. I've gotten all the way west to Altoona once though. Horseshoe Curve in October is absolutely gorgeous!

Bill Banaszak, MFE

Nope.

The poor quality just gone bump model manufacturer?

Peru or Ohio? 8^)

The Keeper (of too much crap)

I have about two dozen 1/144 scale Avengers and Hellcats-- the airgroup for a future RC carrier project.

On the Pegasus/Blue Max page if you want 1/48

Shane (waiting for his to arrive)

what? really? since when? thanks.