Yes, I have the same question, but from a slightly different angle. I have
2007 installed on my `at home' machine, but not on my workstation in my
office yet. (still need to upgrade OS to XP). I am concerned about
activating on my notebook at home and then running into problems when I try
to activate my main computer at work.
Any input would be appreciated.
Works like it is supposed to. Once you have activated one at the office
and one at home, if you try to activate another one at either location,
it warns you that you've exceeded your activations allowed
Thanks, wasn't too sure that it would allow 2 activations even
though the EULA allows it.
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The way it seems to work is that you connect to the server and it
downloads a license file, very much like a network license, and remebers
that you have done so. You can get two for each seat, one ofr work and
one for home.
If you want to upgrade to a new pc, you can reconnect to the license
server and "unregister" you license. This seemingly deletes the file
from your PC, and the server remembers this as well. When you reinstall,
you start the process again.
I have no knowledge of the actual implementation. It could be a file, a
registry edit, or some other mechanism.
In between those two times, SW does not need to connect to the license
server and can be prevented from doing so. I'm sure they've also got
some kind of activate by phone method for those that don't have internet
My VAR was deliberately non-specific about a complete description of
the new license schema (may not have known), but he did say that I
would have to connect to the Internet to validate the 2007
installation, and then deactivate when I wanted to move that license
to a new computer.
The VAR indicated there was a procedure to take care of blown hard
drives, which is predictable, though not common occurance (none for me
in 6 years on Swks, knock knock). That means some method is set to
deal with a broken license on a case by case basis.
I told my VAR clearly that my XP + Swks machine is one I deliberately
keep off the Internet except for the mandatory XP license, & 2007
license when I upgrade. He indicated that this would NOT represent a
I have friends who work on military guidance, JPL/Nasa stuff, and
plasma physics operations where some computers will never be on the
Internet, so I know that this is common, and has to be dealt with
though I don't know how.
I would guess that the new SolidWorks Internet activation is designed
to keep organized software theft rings from working, though I have no
idea whether that will actually stop the crackers.
I hope the new activation system stops the cracker guys, but at the
same time, I hope the average user is not put off with draconian
manipulations. Efficiency is crucial.
At the MD&M show in Anaheim in Feb., I talked with the Swks West Coast
Sales Mgr (I am going from memory on his title & don't have his card
right now), and I said "But I am just an individual user, so I figure
I am not going to get the same service from my VAR as a company with
many licenses gets. I related to Mr. Swks Mgr. that it took my VAR 9
days to call me back when I was interested in buying an add-on,
(within a day another Swks user agreed to do the add-on work for me).
Mr. Swks Mgr. told me that 60% of SolidWorks buyers have a single
seat, and that as such they want their VARs treating individual users
with the same attention that larger companies get. What the VARs give
in attention to a single customer in support & service is obviously
My guess is that if I as an individual user get bad service from my
VAR and can't get it "fixed", I am definately going to call the
Regional SolidWorks Sales Manager and try to figure out a way to get a
new VAR or other solution. That sounds a bit pushy and arrogant, but
dang it, I am paying full retail to these guys, and service is what I
am paying for. I am not asking for something for free.
It hasn't and it won't prevent piracy to any significant degree. There's
been a cracked version of 2007 "floating" around since it officially
launched, posibly before. I've never heard of a piece of software that
wasn't available for "free" if one knew where to look.
It is absolutely ridiculous to think that a company like SW could
outsmart someone or a group of people from cracking their software. If
MS can't do it, certainly SW can't (vista was cracked before it was in
I will say that the current scheme was hassle free for me. If my machine
wasn't connected to the internet, that may not have been the case.
If they take away the home license allowance, there'll certainly be many
more people looking to this group for a crack. (It does seem strange
that people can find this group but not the one that acutally deals with
that sort of thing.)
Regardless, for most legit users the current scheme is not a hassle at
all. We'll see what 2008 brings...it will most likely get worse.
Worked well for me. It's been a great arrangement.
I heard a rumour Solidworks were going to drop the option of a home version
with 2008..... now this would be a serious bummer!
installation of an already
can you point me to the instructions for all these processes
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Like Pro-E on Opteron based Sun Solaris systems. No more MS BS, no more SW
bait and switch,
I'd rather deal with and asshole who acts like one, than one that tries to
present themselves otherwise.
The good days are gone. Everything SW and MS do from now on makes usinig
their systems more expensive from every possible angle. Actually this has
been in process for several years.
At least with Sun you have much more stability. They won't be throwing mokey
wrenches like Vista in the works. PTC is a known evil, for those who have
ever dealt with them. They don't "pretend" to be nice guys.
In the future, as Mark sees, I predict "stability" is going to be
equated with lowered costs & increased productivity with a larger
group of companies.
Detailed cost accounting on software systems will continue to be
required in corporate boardroom in decisions on buying or continuing
with expensive software systems & their expensive employees who work
on them full time.
Mocrosoft is trying to "be-all & do-all" from $500 PC boxes to
Servers, and I don't see them doing well at high end systems where the
professional software & addons cost ten times what the PC with MS
I agree that Sun may make a comeback. Stability & Power can pay off
on high end work.
I wouldn't push Mark very hard on this or any other issues. I think that he
is walking a tightrope by participating in this group. He's trying to help
us out, but at the same time he has to be very careful about what he says,
because he is a SW employee. I think that is why so few people working for
SW have ever participated here.
It must be almost 20 years since I first heard Mark's name. In all that
time, in a number of different jobs, he has always impressed me as someone
who was doing his very best to see that CAD jockeys, including himself, had
the best tools possible.
Tripod Data Systems
"take the garbage out, dear"
Jerry, TOP & All,
No one appreciates Marks input more than me. He has brought SW surfacing
to a new level and SW is MUCH better since Mark Biasoti has come on board!
BUT, it is frustrating to me when mark, or any SW employee, through out
a general generic answer to a question with no specifics and not follow
up with answers to specific questions. My frustration comes from the
fact that I know they ARE listening.
My rant should not have been directed at Mark and I apologize! I've
talked with Mark personally and he knows the admiration and respect that
I have for him, and what a great job that I think he is doing at SW. I
would just like someone at SW to be able to give us some concrete
answers to questions like this when they arise.
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