SP3 activation for @home installation question.

"> Has anyone tried activating an @home installation of an already

Yes, I have the same question, but from a slightly different angle. I have

2007 installed on my `at home' machine, but not on my workstation in my office yet. (still need to upgrade OS to XP). I am concerned about activating on my notebook at home and then running into problems when I try to activate my main computer at work.

Any input would be appreciated.

jk

Works like it is supposed to. Once you have activated one at the office and one at home, if you try to activate another one at either location, it warns you that you've exceeded your activations allowed

Thanks, wasn't too sure that it would allow 2 activations even though the EULA allows it.

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What if you get a new computer after you've activated the software?? Will it let you put a 3rd install on at that time?

Worked well for me. It's been a great arrangement.

I heard a rumour Solidworks were going to drop the option of a home version with 2008..... now this would be a serious bummer!

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Could it be that activation is linked someway to the hardware, and that new one didn't count because it was the same hardware?

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The way it seems to work is that you connect to the server and it downloads a license file, very much like a network license, and remebers that you have done so. You can get two for each seat, one ofr work and one for home.

If you want to upgrade to a new pc, you can reconnect to the license server and "unregister" you license. This seemingly deletes the file from your PC, and the server remembers this as well. When you reinstall, you start the process again.

I have no knowledge of the actual implementation. It could be a file, a registry edit, or some other mechanism.

In between those two times, SW does not need to connect to the license server and can be prevented from doing so. I'm sure they've also got some kind of activate by phone method for those that don't have internet access.

MHill

That would just drive honest users, who rely on this, to using cracked software.

Mark

Don't forget that you can also "transfer" your licenses very easily from one computer to another.

Regards

Mark Biasotti SolidWorks

can you point me to the instructions for all these processes please.

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My VAR was deliberately non-specific about a complete description of the new license schema (may not have known), but he did say that I would have to connect to the Internet to validate the 2007 installation, and then deactivate when I wanted to move that license to a new computer.

The VAR indicated there was a procedure to take care of blown hard drives, which is predictable, though not common occurance (none for me in 6 years on Swks, knock knock). That means some method is set to deal with a broken license on a case by case basis.

I told my VAR clearly that my XP + Swks machine is one I deliberately keep off the Internet except for the mandatory XP license, & 2007 license when I upgrade. He indicated that this would NOT represent a problem.

I have friends who work on military guidance, JPL/Nasa stuff, and plasma physics operations where some computers will never be on the Internet, so I know that this is common, and has to be dealt with though I don't know how.

I would guess that the new SolidWorks Internet activation is designed to keep organized software theft rings from working, though I have no idea whether that will actually stop the crackers.

I hope the new activation system stops the cracker guys, but at the same time, I hope the average user is not put off with draconian manipulations. Efficiency is crucial.

At the MD&M show in Anaheim in Feb., I talked with the Swks West Coast Sales Mgr (I am going from memory on his title & don't have his card right now), and I said "But I am just an individual user, so I figure I am not going to get the same service from my VAR as a company with many licenses gets. I related to Mr. Swks Mgr. that it took my VAR 9 days to call me back when I was interested in buying an add-on, (within a day another Swks user agreed to do the add-on work for me).

Mr. Swks Mgr. told me that 60% of SolidWorks buyers have a single seat, and that as such they want their VARs treating individual users with the same attention that larger companies get. What the VARs give in attention to a single customer in support & service is obviously variable.

My guess is that if I as an individual user get bad service from my VAR and can't get it "fixed", I am definately going to call the Regional SolidWorks Sales Manager and try to figure out a way to get a new VAR or other solution. That sounds a bit pushy and arrogant, but dang it, I am paying full retail to these guys, and service is what I am paying for. I am not asking for something for free.

Bo

It hasn't and it won't prevent piracy to any significant degree. There's been a cracked version of 2007 "floating" around since it officially launched, posibly before. I've never heard of a piece of software that wasn't available for "free" if one knew where to look.

It is absolutely ridiculous to think that a company like SW could outsmart someone or a group of people from cracking their software. If MS can't do it, certainly SW can't (vista was cracked before it was in stores).

I will say that the current scheme was hassle free for me. If my machine wasn't connected to the internet, that may not have been the case.

If they take away the home license allowance, there'll certainly be many more people looking to this group for a crack. (It does seem strange that people can find this group but not the one that acutally deals with that sort of thing.)

Regardless, for most legit users the current scheme is not a hassle at all. We'll see what 2008 brings...it will most likely get worse.

MHill

I am optomistic it will get better with newer OS & license systems.

That doesn't mean I am going to be the first ones to take the arrows in the back, though.

Bo

Chris,

Like Pro-E on Opteron based Sun Solaris systems. No more MS BS, no more SW bait and switch,

I'd rather deal with and asshole who acts like one, than one that tries to present themselves otherwise.

The good days are gone. Everything SW and MS do from now on makes usinig their systems more expensive from every possible angle. Actually this has been in process for several years.

At least with Sun you have much more stability. They won't be throwing mokey wrenches like Vista in the works. PTC is a known evil, for those who have ever dealt with them. They don't "pretend" to be nice guys.

Mark

In the future, as Mark sees, I predict "stability" is going to be equated with lowered costs & increased productivity with a larger group of companies.

Detailed cost accounting on software systems will continue to be required in corporate boardroom in decisions on buying or continuing with expensive software systems & their expensive employees who work on them full time.

Mocrosoft is trying to "be-all & do-all" from $500 PC boxes to Servers, and I don't see them doing well at high end systems where the professional software & addons cost ten times what the PC with MS software costs.

I agree that Sun may make a comeback. Stability & Power can pay off on high end work.

Bo

I wouldn't push Mark very hard on this or any other issues. I think that he is walking a tightrope by participating in this group. He's trying to help us out, but at the same time he has to be very careful about what he says, because he is a SW employee. I think that is why so few people working for SW have ever participated here.

It must be almost 20 years since I first heard Mark's name. In all that time, in a number of different jobs, he has always impressed me as someone who was doing his very best to see that CAD jockeys, including himself, had the best tools possible.

Jerry Steiger Tripod Data Systems "take the garbage out, dear"

Jerry, TOP & All,

No one appreciates Marks input more than me. He has brought SW surfacing to a new level and SW is MUCH better since Mark Biasoti has come on board! BUT, it is frustrating to me when mark, or any SW employee, through out a general generic answer to a question with no specifics and not follow up with answers to specific questions. My frustration comes from the fact that I know they ARE listening.

My rant should not have been directed at Mark and I apologize! I've talked with Mark personally and he knows the admiration and respect that I have for him, and what a great job that I think he is doing at SW. I would just like someone at SW to be able to give us some concrete answers to questions like this when they arise.

Muggs

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