An email from someone at the Toronto NMRA convention mentioned that although there were a lot of entries in a lot of categories in the modelling contest, there wasn't a single trolley or interurban entered.
Anyone here doing traction modelling?
In my armchair, i am.
-John
*You are nothing until you have flown a Douglas, Lockheed, Grumman or North American*Good Morning!
"O"--Scale predominantly (1.48) - also some 1.12.
Appoarently 2-were killed the other day when they refused to surrender.
Jim
YO!
North Shore Line. Currently setting up Pettibone Yard-North Chicago, IL.. I don't have any interurbans under construction at present, but I'll need a whole fleet by the time I'm done...and steeplecabs. Gotta have those, too.
Jay Modeling the North Shore & North Western C&NW/CNS&M in 1940-1955 E-mail is now open snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
Cream City Traction. A freelance system in HO based loosely on the Milwaukee Electric, (Including Milwaukee "city" cars) and the Chicago, North Shore and Milwaukee.
Don
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Do you mean northern Chicago or the town of North Chicago? I used to (1957-58) live in Zion and work in Waukegan (American Steel and Wire), so I know about North Chicago.
Seems strange to me that "refusing to surrender" is due the death penalty without trial in an occupied nation that is not at war! You yanks have the strangest methods of making friends.
Regards, Greg.P.
City of North Chicago. Next door to Great Lakes. My layout's a bit of a compromise in that area. I didn't have room for NC Junction AND Valley Junction, so I combined them at the north end of Pettibone. No underpass under the C&NW either. No room for the grade to get under it, and it would nowhere in the current plan anyway. Maybe in version 2.0...
I grew up in Zion. I was born just after abandonment. The town's a shell of its former self. When I graduated, the high school had the 3rd lowest dropout rate in the county. Last I heard was it's now 3rd highest, right behind North Chicago and Waukegan.
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Well, in America, when you shoot at the police, they shoot back. And when shooting back from behind thick walls with bulletproof glass (as reported on NPR), it's not surprising. Although it makes one wonder why they had bulletproof glass if the house belonged to a distant relative. Surely that glass wasn't installed in the last few weeks! Do I doubt NPR's reporting? It certainly sounds fishy on the face of it.
The reporting here is that while the higher-ups had info that the Hussein boys were there, AOL is reporting that the troops themselves did not have that information. It wouldn't be the first time that information wasn't passed down the chain of command.
I would rather have had them captured and tried than killed. It's justice denied...to their victims.
Jay Modeling the North Shore & North Western C&NW/CNS&M in 1940-1955 E-mail is now open snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
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From the American's perspective, I'm sure a live prisoner would have been better than a corpse in proving who the person is rather than was.
I think that the Americans are going to be hard pressed to convince the Iraqis that some blood stained, bearded, bloated body is who the Americans say it is, just because it's the Americans that are saying it.
-- Cheers Roger T.
I don't even have to look, this is GP again ... right!? Ok, I have to check ... YUP! What a maroon. I'm going to guess that it wasn't the, "we don't need no stinking surrender gringo!" that instigated the death sentence. More likely it was the initiation of gun fire by the sons of Hussein that brought that on.
Actually this fits with their new identities as travelling "glass" salesmen. A perfect cover for carting around many sheets of bullet proof glass and moving around all the time. This is like deja vu all over again, wasn't this in a Tom Clancy novel?
Paul
Right - the house surrounded the US forces, mortars and helicopters and opened fire on them! Your "More likely..." demonstrates that you are talking from total ignorance.
The old "Guilty because we claim they had bullet proof glass" routine! You lot didn't even know who you were shooting at - four dead and you're pretty sure one of your victims was the person you claim him to be. That leaves three dead people unknown.
That may be "justice" in the US, but civilized nations set higher standards.
Regards, Greg.P.
Justice? Four people killed, one later identified as perhaps being Hussein's son.
You yanks are setting yourselves up in Hussein's image.
Regards, Greg.P.
There's a small pile of bodies - one being who the yanks claim doesn't justify the rest of the pile to the relatives.
In the Arab culture, boys go to live in the world of men after age 7. At 14, if he's shooting back, treat him the same. Bullets don't care the age of the person handling the gun. They're just as lethal from a 14-year-old as a grown man.
The dynasty is dead, inshallah.
Jay Modeling the North Shore & North Western C&NW/CNS&M in 1940-1955 E-mail is now open snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
Oops. I forgot to mail that one rather than broadcasting it. Sorry!
Jay Modeling the North Shore & North Western C&NW/CNS&M in 1940-1955 E-mail is now open snipped-for-privacy@aol.com
Sounds just like the USa - what age do you train your children to handle guns?
The new dynasty is alive.
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