Actually, writing a web page in standard MTML/XTML, and ignoring MS's
non-standrad version, will make it readable by everybody's browser's --
Oh, and the MS's spin on "people will reexamine why they chose IE in the
first place ..." People don't choose IE - it comes with the Windows box.
If Windows were a true OS, instead of the OS + applications spaghetti
bowl it has become, people might chooe IE on its merits - but then again
they might not. That's what Willy Wallhole is afraid of.
On 12/21/04 8:42 PM, in article
895yd.10157$Z% firstname.lastname@example.org, "Wolf Kirchmeir"
Wolf, IE would have to HAVE merits. I work in an almost totally Windows
environment, and NO ONE speaks well of IE (or Office for that matter).
If Steve Jobs were smart, he'd port OS X to the Intel platform. Apple
Computer sale would plummet, but MicroSloth would be out of business, and
Steve would be hailed as a conquering hero.
Microsoft and the tech schools churn out web programmers who know little
beyond Front Page. Once they have their diploma, they figure they don't need
to know anything else, because no one said anything about it in the boiler
You don't have to do anything special if you use standard HTML.
It takes no more effort to design a web page that 100% of your users
can see than it does to design one that 5-10% can't. Which makes more
Then again, if the "professional" web designer only knows how to use
Front Page and has never actually written HTML code, it might be
faster to do it the M$ way...
And 95% of users browsing with IE are spending 50% of the time closing
unwanted pop-up windows.
Mozilla or it's stand alone browser Firefox, are worth using simply for
the fact that Pop-ups are eliminated.
And, the price for a Mozilla or Firefox download is Free.
I switched to Mozilla, and I love it. At work, if I have to use IE, I
quickly get itchy fingers and download Mozilla onto the work machines.
Try it, you will like it.
Train pictures at:
... it sounds like you do not know that Internet Explorer blocks pop-up
On the Tools menu, point to Pop-up Blocker, and then click Pop-up Blocker
(What else don't you know about IE that you'd like to share?)
Hey... I got my source off the internet... from this ng... from this
I thought IE only had around 80% but isn't the web only filled with hard
In the end it's up to the client, if they want to pay the money for multi
browser compatibility or cut costs for a specific browser market.
Set the pro's and cons out there, make your reccomendations and then do what
the customer wants. :-)
You don't have to buy it :-)
Absolutely right. Conversly if you are ok with IE only browsers, why not use
some of the bells and whistles of IE?
Yep. Got us by the short and curlies. Ain't the marketplace a wonderful
place of friendly and benevolent souls? Softwood or beef anybody? :-) Seems
like monopolies are like little dictatorships eh?
yep very strong opions, and mostly kept to myself (:-o
Would have told the retailer the consequences development cost & loss of
audience at the design phase.
Would have done so more than once and gotten a signoff. If a client comes to
you and says they have an MS platform running IE and I want you to develop a
fancy shmancy web site you going to force them to jump platforms? Mabye
they'll bite, maybe not...
Have to confess I've never programmed in Front page. Opened it, had a look
around and never went back. I kinda like .NET. Reminds me of doing real
programming again before I got into ASP (which I rather dislike, but it was
a job). I miss C++ and MFC (somewhat) but I've sold my soul to the VB.NET
fold. Not perfect but beats DLL hell (so far).
I'd have to know what you mean by HTML code before I could make a comment.
If you're talking just web content without database connectivity then
there's no comparison. That's not code, it's just script. Give me strong
typing, classes, inheratence yada yada yada...
I'm also using IE6. I just tried it again with IE6, and initially I got the
same blank boxes, but after waiting for a short time (~ 10 seconds or so) it
worked. It looks like it's just a bit hit and miss, or else dreadfully
With Firefox, I still get none of the product data.