Bach 66 will have lights and all-wheel drive...

"Adrian" wrote

Hi Adrian,

As far as I'm concerned the 66s have always been scheduled to have lights, with only one or two mischief makers on here and elsewhere suggesting otherwise.

John.

Adrian wrote:-

Possibly becuase they intend to market a verison in other countries where standards are higher than in the UK?

(kim)

John Turner wrote:-

Would it have been "mischief making" to suggest that the new 37/0 would not have lights even though its predecessor did and to remove them probably cost Bachmann more than leaving them where they were?

(kim)

Nothing to do with lights, but what it is about the class 66? My modelling is firmly in the archaic era, but I appreciate "classic" diesels such as the Western, 50 etc. I also quite like the design of the class 66, which is deeply worrying, and I find myself looking forward to it's release. WHY????

"kim" wrote

They were *never* announced as having lights, whereas the 66 was.

John.

"Paul Boyd" wrote

Same reason as me probably, you happen to like railways and the 66 is the forseeable future of railfreight.

John.

In 4mm? I doubt it.

John Turner wrote:-

It seems I missed this announcement, despite being a subscriber to Bachmann's collector magazine.

(kim)

Yes, a very uninteresting modelling future! Just imagine if there had only ever been the black 5! Ok, it would have been the EWS 5, the GBRF 5, the bin man five etc, but still the one loco! At least for now I have the 60 in various liveries going past the house on steel trains and the odd 37 growl pass occasionally, but modern day modelling as for real loco trains is very boaring, cant stand all these run away coaches with no loco!!

Fazakerley.

I can remember similar things being said about those new loco's that had replaced the black 5 etc., such as the EE3 (class 37).....

"piemanlarger" wrote

Ironically I have one twelve year old customer who is dmu mad! In the last few weeks he (or at least his Dad) has bought a 221 Voyager and an Arriva

John.

Adrian wrote:-

They already market the ex-WD overseas. A lot of H0 modellers don't care that much if a loco with a relatively small loading gauge is slightly overscale if it represents good value for money. Having invested in the toiling for a 4mm model, Bachmann wil lwant to recoup as much of that investment as possible and one way of doing that is to produce versions in overseas liveries.

(kim)

Does the tilt actually work (and if so how well)? I'm not fussy about period, but I do like interesting engineering.

Mark Thornton

"Mark Thornton" wrote

Supposedly so, but I've not actually tried one myself.

John.

In message , kim writes

Yes it would. The class 37/0 when it was first introduced in the 1960s didn't use lights in any way like the lights that are used nowadays. Therefore there was no need whatever for Bachmann to supply them with lights. Head- and taillights were ordinary oil-lamps. The lighting level behind the headcode was very dim, almost not worth bothering about.

John Sullivan wrote:-

Is the lighting behind the headcodes on the 37/0 any more dim or any less worth bothering about than the illuminated headcode on the Heljan 47 in two-tone green which I will be running on the same stretch of line?

(kim)

Not in my recollection ! I don't think I have ever seen an English Electric Type 3 (ie Class 37) with oil headlamps.

Again not in my recollection.

David

Never heard of the 'head lamp' (train type, later called route indicating) code ?...