Does anyone know of a web site that lists the numbering changes from GWR loco numbers to BR numbers. I am finding out which of the GWR locos required for my layout are sold under the guise of a BR style and numbering (such as the BR 4MTs from Farish).
GWR locos didn't change their numbers, they stayed the same. It was everyone else (LNER, LMS, SR) who had to change. Probably just another example of Swindon being bloody minded, as in 'this is our region, we do what we want'. After all Gresley Was Right...
Not sure what you are really asking but the following might help;
Ex GWR loco's kept their GWR numbers on the formation of British Railways, any ex GWR designed loco's built after 1948 were given numbers within 1 to
9999 range together with GWR style cab side number plates. The only way to tell a pre nationalisation GWR loco apart from a post nationalisation version is by it's colour scheme (and possibly the fitment of a smoke box door number plate.
BR designed steam loco's were allocated the number range of 70000 to 99999.
But on that same slant all LMS locos had smokebox numberplates which had to be changed. And didnt some Jubilees and A4s have cast cabside numbers, or where they removed during the war?
They were the only line with cast number plates. All the others had them painted.
There were some renumberings but these were just prior to nationalisation, to separate the oil-burners into number sequences apart from the main sequence of each class. And also of other locomotives to make room for them.
For today's modellers probably the best known was the renumbering of the 48xx 0-4-2 tanks to 14xx to free up the 48xx series for oil-fired versions of the 28xx and 38xx 2-8-0s.
Not quite, some LNER A4's had Stainless steel numbers in pre war but they would have been removed due to Thomson's 1945 renumbering. IIRC no LMS had cast cab side number plates.
Quite true, but they could have been, due to the BR(W) 'number range' - just think, if a replacement for one of the VoR loco's had been built in the early '50 say, what do you think it's number would have been... :~)
There's at least one exception. GWR No 2 became 15100 upon nationalisation........
It was a Hawthorn-Leslie 350hp diesel-electric shunter delivered in 1935. Similar to a batch of 10 delivered to the LMS, 2 of which survived to become
12000-12001 in BR days. Just before nationalisation, the GWR were starting a separate diesel number series and the above loco was allocated 500, but never carried it. Further diesel shunters ordered for the GWR, but delivered after Nationalisation actually had cast brass numberplates - 15101-15107. No2/15100 always had a painted number.
Cheers, Mick Waiting for the Judith Edge kit of the above loco!
An odd exception was a Peckett 0-4-0ST which was purchased by BR from the liquidator of Ystalyfera Tinplate Works and added to stock in July 1948. It was included in the GWR number series as no 1, but with painted rather than cast cabside numbers.
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