I'm discovering the wonderful world of ebay & have seen a Hornby Brit & Evening Star 9F described as Triang-Lima-Triang. It's bad enough I have to learn all about the prototypes :-) but do I now have to learn all about the manufacturers? Please guys, a potted history with, if possible, a best, better, type guide. I know it's a broad question again but I've obviously got a lot to learn in a short time.
For the best part, Lima has nothing to do with Triang or Hornby. Some sellers will try to fool you by putting certain key words into the descriptions. Thus, if they are selling, say, a Lime item, including the word "Triang" may encourage Triang collectors to look, too.
Known as keyword spamming, and reportable to eBay if you feel so inclined ;-)
As to the original post, for a beginner it is best to stay away from Triang & Hornby-Dublo (if the prices don't deter you anyway!). Personally, I would avoid Lima as well, because whilst it can run well, it can also run very badly, and you can't try it out first. The old wheels can be a problem as well. This gives you one more unknown, and as a beginner you have enough unknowns as it is!
If you can stick with Bachmann, or more modern Hornby, you should be OK.
Basically, you are right apart from the fact that Hornby now owns Lima. But since there are no ex Lima products on the market sold by Hornby yet, it is not an issue. How many attempts will there be in the future to sell old Lima products as Hornby - who knows.
But are you really Rich Mackin?? Ooops - sorry, wrong thread!!!! It is true that eBay seem to do very little these days except count their profits. In the great scheme of (eBay) things, keyword spamming is trivial. There are for more immoral and illegal scams on there that also go unmolested by eBay, despite many reports. I know some illegal auctions carry on for hours, or days, after mass reporting by the eBay community. If eBay can't get these sorted, the minor matter of a wrongly used brand names doesn't really stand much chance. It might make the reporter feel they have done their duty though!
I recently had a couple of listings terminated by eBay when I 'advertised' some DCC decoders as being 'suitable for Hornby or Bachmann', and after that made a nuisance of myself by reporting every single such incident I came across of keword or brandname spamming when searching for stuff myself.
I also reported someone who won one of my items, but when I came to invoice him after the auction the buyer had failed to register a proper name or address. He still hasn't paid, and eBay don't seem to have done much about it either.
I think I can safely say that eBay really don't give a toss about anything, although they make nominal attempts to prove otherwise. As long as they're raking in their commission, nothing else seems to matter.
John Turner said the following on 03/02/2006 00:07:
That is just the sort of ridiculous reaction from eBay you get! A DCC decoder is suitable for Hornby or Bachmann, so the description or title is factual, not spamming. Having the listings pulled though means that some bugger has reported you!
Meanwhile, I'll just carry on selling photos of mobile phones for £00s of pounds, Ipods & Xboxes that don't exist (whatever they are!), electrical goods dispatched from "Shanghai, United Kingdom", postage being charged at £60 for a penny item, plus compulsory insurance at £15... Of course I will post it to Nigeria, sir!
All part of the fun that is eBay! I do enjoy it, really. I have just won an item from the USA that I am really excited about - if all goes to plan you may hear about the results on this group :-)
That's Ebay for you. If there is a reasonable market for an item, the prices usually end up above what you would expect to pay in a shop. Particularly for second hand stuff. It's all a matter of availability and the fact that people can get these items without the effort of physically searching for them in shops, exhibitions and swapmeets.