Ontracks - starting to get fairly unimpressed

" snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@o11g2000yql.googlegroups.com:
Which is a bloody shame as he can be very helpful when he's in his humanity compatability mode - see the thread on chassis building for an example.
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Periander
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I have to agree with Jerry's comments on REMPLOY.
The removal of their funding was, to my mind, very short sighted. ( come the revolution I will have ALL accounts shot ).
Many of you may be surprised to learn what REMPLOY does :-
Remploy Automotive Remploy Building Products Remploy e-cycle ( go into many charity shops selling electrical goods like 2nd hard TV' s; washers etc. and they will probably have been repaired and / or tested by REMPLOY ) Remploy Frontline ( protective clothing for military and civil use ) Remploy Healthcare Remploy Offiscope Remploy Packaging Remploy Workscope
Going back to Ontracks I am still unclear if these undelivered items have been paid for ?
I know from experience larger companies like to 'hold on' to suppliers or sub contractors money as long as possible, even 'pay when paid' and that the government has put in place legislation to try and prevent this. I am sure intentionally or unintentionally Internet companies do the same to the general public.
Chris
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Dragon Heart
Dragon Heart wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@j1g2000yqi.googlegroups.com:
Nope, i quite agree with you - for all sorts of reasons and yes I was fully aware of what remploy does/did ...
... but ...
... it was never a business, it was a service. Recognise it as that, fund it as that and don't expect it to make a profit.
Reply to
Periander
Why was it not a business, one of Websters definition of noun business is :- A commercial or industrial enterprise and the people who constitute it;
I cannot see how funding or making a profit affect the definition.
Cheers, Simon
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simon
: : ... it was never a business, it was a service. Recognise it as that, : fund it as that and don't expect it to make a profit. :
You seem to be arguing over semantics...
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Jerry
REMPLOY was NEVER intended to be a commercial profit orientated business. It purpose was / is " to significantly increase the employment opportunities of disabled people and those who experience complex barriers to work "
Some may find this interesting regarding their factory closures :-
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Just because some faceless civil servant decided to cut their funding the REMPLOY management decided to restructure and will continue to support people. This regrouping has cost them time and money that would have been better spent on their 'employees' but .....
Chris
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Dragon Heart
Dragon Heart wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@u13g2000yqg.googlegroups.com:
I confess I misremembered, what stuck in my mind was that commercial factors were over-riding the main purpose of the organisation. Still as teh socialists have bankrupted or closed everything they've ever touched I don't suppose that I should have been that surprised.
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Chris Wilson
"simon" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@bt.com:
snipped-for-privacy@j1g2000yqi.googlegroups.com:
(a) What Dragon said (b) Websters FFS not even an English dictionary let alone on that was ever intended to impart anything more than superfical knowlage
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Chris Wilson
"Jerry" wrote in news:gni2f8$jld $ snipped-for-privacy@reader.motzarella.org:
Not really, we were arguing about purpose - commercial business is there to make money for the owners. Service "industry" is there to provide a service.
Two different things entirely and that it is a basic failing of socialist economics to confuse the two to the detriment of the economy. By running the nationalised industries as job creation schemes money that could and should have been spent on development and investment in new technology was pissed away. Consequently all the nationalised industries went to the wall, consequently the manufacturing base of the economy was wiped out and we?re in the position we are today where an ever diminishing number of businesses are funding an ever expanding number of government run service industries which in turn is causing yet more real business to close as they can?t afford the tax burden. Nasty spiral downward trend.
BTW it was reported today that tax income compared to the same period last year is already 7 billion down from last year ... and with all those PFI and job creation schemes to pay for as well ...
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Chris Wilson
"Jerry" wrote in news:gnkfhn$97e$1 @news.motzarella.org:
Same old excuses, "Oh they aren't real socialists", bollocks.
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Chris Wilson
"Jerry" wrote in news:gnkg8k$t9f $ snipped-for-privacy@reader.motzarella.org:
Actually Keynes and his forbears
And as I've suggested, stick to model railways, you know what you're talking about there and at times it can be an education to read what you have to say.
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Chris Wilson
(a) Think you need to check the thread as to who said what cos not sure Dragon said anything about it not being a business. (b) How about from Cambridge University Press : the activity of buying and selling goods and services, or a particular company that does this, or work you do to earn money:
NB goods and services. and that 'or' is very important.
Still no mention of funding or profit....
Cheers, Simon
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simon
Snipped bit thats not really relevant to the discussion.
So is a high street Hairdressers a business or a service ?
Cheers, Simon
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simon
Pardon me Chris, but as far as the definition of business is concerned, I agree with Jerry and support his right to an opinion (well would do that even if didnt agree).
Cheers, Simon
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simon
"simon" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@bt.com:
Oh certainly I support both of you in your right to hold opinions, indeed I would fight for your right to hold said opinions. Doesn't mean that i accept your opinions as being correct though.
Anyway, back to trains?
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Chris Wilson
OK, so in my dreams I have this beautiful mistress whose Dad always wanted a Railway Modelling shop. So I set up in this nice shop, good location but hes forever cutting prices for his mates and theres no chance of ever making a profit - not losing too much so can easily continue funding it for my lifetime. Shes happy so keeps me happy, and her Dads in heaven with his .....er....
Cheers, Simon
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simon
: : : : Time to go back to trains methinks ;-) :
Yes, best you do, as this is all way over your head - Many utilities are services, are you suggesting that Thatcher should not have sold the public utilities into private ownership?!
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Jerry

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