I am interested in the new Bachman Hall, but need to know which numbers it is suitable to be re-named/numbered to ? I believe there are differences in the class which means only certain members of the class are suitable as new identities?
So, what are the numbers?
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gwr4090
The principal differences within the Hall Class as built are: (1) Fire iron tunnel on LHS: Not fitted: 4900-99, 5900-20 Fitted to: 5921-99, 6900-58 (2) Cabside handrails: Single horizontal: 4900-99, 5900-20 Separate horizontal and vertical: 5921-75 Single "L shaped": 5976-99, 6900-58 (3) Low pitched boiler: 4900 (4) A few engines at various times later acquired Grange type chimneys and/or modified Hall type boilers. I don't have detailed records of these. And of course there was some variation in tenders which were typically changed every couple of years.
I am not sure if handrail and fireiron features were changed during overhauls. I have not found any evidence yet.
The Bachmann model of 5960 (and I expect the other two as well when they eventually arrive ?) has a single horizontal cabside handrail and a fireiron tunnel so is not actually representative of any engine as built ! Strange since I am fairly confident that the original prototype models displayed last year by Bachmann didn't have any fireiron tunnel ? For the fastiduous it should not be too difficult to add/modify the cab handrails for one of the later engines from 5921 onwards. Removing the fireiron tunnel will be next to impossible without major surgery.
David Randles
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John Turner
"gwr4090" wrote
Were there not also tender variations too?
John.
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The Old Salt
< SNIP >
Hmmm . . . someone's been at the pop!
A bit early for a Sunday evening, isn't it?
:-)
TOS
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Enzo Matrix
It's *never* too early! :-D
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John Turner
"The Old Salt" wrote
LOL - I read the thing three times to check that it hadn't been covered too. I think I should stick to the pop and leave the whisky alone! ;-)
John.
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The Old Salt
So do I - send the whisky to me!
:-)
TOS
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Piemanlager
these are two names I would like to re-name my bachman Lined Black Hall, the new one.
4913 - baglan Hall or
4970 Sketty hall.
Anyone know where I can check to see if they are roughly the right type of hall and if they were ever done in lined black?
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Enzo Matrix
The Great Western Archive might help.
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