Re-naming the Bachman Hall

Apr 03, 2005 8 Replies

I am interested in the new Bachman Hall, but need to know which numbers it is suitable to be re-named/numbered to ? I believe there are differences in the class which means only certain members of the class are suitable as new identities?



So, what are the numbers?


The principal differences within the Hall Class as built are: (1) Fire iron tunnel on LHS: Not fitted: 4900-99, 5900-20 Fitted to: 5921-99, 6900-58 (2) Cabside handrails: Single horizontal: 4900-99, 5900-20 Separate horizontal and vertical: 5921-75 Single "L shaped": 5976-99, 6900-58 (3) Low pitched boiler: 4900 (4) A few engines at various times later acquired Grange type chimneys and/or modified Hall type boilers. I don't have detailed records of these. And of course there was some variation in tenders which were typically changed every couple of years.

I am not sure if handrail and fireiron features were changed during overhauls. I have not found any evidence yet.

The Bachmann model of 5960 (and I expect the other two as well when they eventually arrive ?) has a single horizontal cabside handrail and a fireiron tunnel so is not actually representative of any engine as built ! Strange since I am fairly confident that the original prototype models displayed last year by Bachmann didn't have any fireiron tunnel ? For the fastiduous it should not be too difficult to add/modify the cab handrails for one of the later engines from 5921 onwards. Removing the fireiron tunnel will be next to impossible without major surgery.

David Randles

"gwr4090" wrote

Were there not also tender variations too?

John.

< SNIP >

Hmmm . . . someone's been at the pop!

A bit early for a Sunday evening, isn't it?

:-)

TOS

It's *never* too early! :-D

"The Old Salt" wrote

LOL - I read the thing three times to check that it hadn't been covered too. I think I should stick to the pop and leave the whisky alone! ;-)

John.

So do I - send the whisky to me!

:-)

TOS

these are two names I would like to re-name my bachman Lined Black Hall, the new one.

4913 - baglan Hall or 4970 Sketty hall.

Anyone know where I can check to see if they are roughly the right type of hall and if they were ever done in lined black?

The Great Western Archive might help.

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