Couldn't agree more ...
Here's an interesting little factoid though, during the Falklands War, New
Zealand bless it's little cotton socks offered to send both of it's
Frigates(*) to the North Atlantic in order to cover RN NATO duties so that
more RN ships could be dispatched southwards.
(*) IOW it's entire fleet at the time
Not quite, the NZ vessels didn't sail south or take any part in the war,
they simply took up station around the GIUK gap so that RN frigates could be
released. The US sent satellite imagery (against the wishes of Ronald the
clown), they also supplied munitions and leased supply vessels (one of which
was bombed by an Argentinean C130 via the simple expedient of rolling the
bomb out of the tail doors ... bounced of the forecastle and failed to
explode) ... also South Africa put it's Simonstown naval base (which he RN
had built years ago prior to the rise of socialism) on to a war footing,
cleared the docks and repair yards of it's own vessels and made the whole
lot available to the RN FOC no strings attached ... HMGs Gvt declined it's
kind offer and chose to scuttle damaged warships that couldn't make the run
home rather than take SA up on their offer and tow the ships there for
repair. I understand (but I haven't seen confirmation of this) offered to
permit Nimrods and strike aircraft to base in SA (which would have much
reduced the run from Ascention Island)
That's not exactly true. I was in the Air Force at the time and was
deployed to the Falklands during the conflict. There were two Australians
who were on exchange postings with my unit who took part in hostilities. And
we won't mention the US "technical advisors" who assisted with the in-combat
introduction of AIM-9L Sidewinder missiles.
NZ did not commit combat forces to the conflict. Instead, as you mention,
they offered the use of their Navy (which was not required - STANAVFORLANT
took up the slack) and a squadron of transport aircraft (which was
gratefully accepted. Kiwi aircraft took over milk runs in Europe freeing up
RAF aircraft to supply Ascension). There were a lot of Commonwealth
countries who provided logistical support, either in theatre or in Europe.
We certainly found out who our friends are.
Yes, I have heard that foreign-exchange officers sometimes take part in
hostilities despite the official position of their government but being a
strictly neutral Dutchman I wouldn't know anything about that [cough]
At the time the Falklands conflict broke out the Royal Australian Navy was
negotiating - very seriously - to purchase the aircraft carrier HMS
INVINCIBLE, which Mr Nott had declared "surplus to RN requirements". Once
it was clear that the RN needed the ship, the Aussies terminated
If he's trying to rescue his sister from the fire, then smart doesn't enter
into it. There are things that just have to be done. The fact that some
people (or even most people) just don't get it doesn't change anything for
those who do.
Interesting question. Should the civilised world allow attrocities to
continue in these two and other similar countries?
Should we allow Iran to develop nuclear weapons with its track record of
supporting terrorism? If so what would be the reaction if they supplied
terrorists with the technology to create a dirty (nuclear) bomb which they
detonated in London's Underground?
I don't know the answers to these questions, but I think they're worth
Saddam was doing all that from 1978 until 2002 with the US's (and Britain's)
The point of intervention should _not_ be the moment when oil supplies on the
open market fall to the level where oil prices begin to rise, nor should they be
_after_ the first two million innocent civilian casualties.
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