"Roger T." wrote
Not so. I think the classic proving example would be Keppler Wessels who
played cricket for Australia and ended up captaining the South African team.
John.
Certainly - but what's not often commented on these days is that 90% of
Afghanistan today is ruled by other than the official Afghan Government
and the majority of Afghans are worse off under feudal warlords that they
were under the Taliban.
Regards,
Greg.P.
There are (long term) answers to their problems, but one needs to consider who
is asking the questions and who is defining the problems.
While the West defines the problems there never will be any answer, because the
West is in part the cause of the problems.
So long as the US and UK continue to support dictatorships, feudal monarchies
and the like, the problems will only get worse.
Regards,
Greg.P.
It would now appear that those responsible were not brought up on the mean
streets of Basra but rather the mean streets of Bradford / Leeds / Aylesbury
and Jamaica and none of the bombers would appear to have any connection to
Iraq other than sharing a religion with many in the Middle East. It would
appear they were angry young men manipulated by elders, hmm typed that
somewhere before... Some Muslims blame the West's politics in Muslim
countries but in carrying out an attack on the West they killed their own
people, other devout Muslims. As Charles Clark said on Channel4 news last
night, these attacks have been going on throughout Europe and the World for
decades, long before Iraq and Afganistan.
Yes Britain's involvement in Iraq and Afganistan could have provoked these
attacks, would these attacks not have happened if Britain hadn't been
involved in the US alliance? Probably not.
I know nothing at all about sporting rules, but I think France treats
its overseas territories as a _part of_ France, rather than using the
arm's length approach Britain takes. The various French territories
use Euros, send politicans to Paris, etc. There are no Falkland
Islands or Bermudan MPs in Westminster, for example, but Reunion is
represented in Paris. The Maps on Euro banknotes show French Guiana.
Politically Reunion et al are more like (say) the Shetlands than like
Pitcairn.
BICBW!
Exactly my point, a couple of people on here jumping up and down quoting
Iraq or Afganistan as the reasons for the attack, perhaps your question
should be directed to them. As I said (and you deleted) it was quoted a few
days back that these kind of attacks have been going on around the world,
including Europe for many many years.
"Greg Procter" wrote
Yes, but we also messed around in Australia, New Zealand, Canada and many
parts of Africa, not to mention China and other parts of the Far East, the
Caribbean, parts of South America ................... the list goes on. How
many of these places have bombed the USA, Spain, the UK and many other
places. Apologies for any I've missed.
There seems to be a particularly evil mindset in some parts of the world.
John.
Hasn't the bell rung on this one yet? Do you know how long it has been since
a New Zealander began interfering in the UK and haranguing us about how evil
we are?
Not to mention that tourism is seen by many as an evil interference that
destroys local cultures, and of course all international trade is an evil
interference that exploits the third world and depletes their resources, and
where I used to live I went next door to complain about the noise of a party
at 4.00 a.m. and the householder told me I was interfering in his affairs in
an evil manner and he had no choice but to kill me with a bomb to maintain
his cultural integrity, and some indigenous cultures don't see why they have
to tolerate an influx of outsiders that turns their society upside down and
they would naturally resent the invaders and in their desperation to recover
control of their own affairs might have to resort to....hang on, I've just
realised... that applies to us here in England! Can we use our nukes now,
please? Leeds would be a good target.
Doom! Doom! We're all doomed I tell you!
.. and anyone else spot what a key role the railways played in facilitating
these murders? Scrap the railways now!
Cheers,
Steve
"Steve W" wrote
Fine, but can you avoid the area around Elland Road please - I've a sneaking
feeling that United will have a reasonable team next season. ;-)
John.
John Turner banged on his/her/it's keyboard in uk.rec.models.rail
and came up with this:
You should get Lee Bowyer back. He's more dangerous than any nuke.
Sure to be welcomed by the local Asian community. :-)
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