RC Universe and RC Groups

Too slow, and besides all the smart ones stay here.

m-m

| I wonder if most of you are aware of RC Universe and RC Groups Ezone online | forums.

I wonder if most of the RC Universe and RC Groups Ezone users are aware of rec.models.rc.air and similar groups?

There are groups devoted to powered planes planes, gliders, cars and boats.

No need to get registered -- just post to the group! You can ask questions and get answers much more quickly than on those and other similar websites! And there's no banner ads or other forms of advertising.

I wonder if they'd mind if we posted there to advertise these groups?

| I prefer RC Groups/Ezone.

That's nice.

Yes, and they stay away from here.

Well now!

I'm aware of those, and several more. If your looking for information all are worth while and none need to be ignored. To suggest using one over another would suggest that one is superior to the others which (imho) is disappointing. Any and all have useful information some more, some less. All have bickering and whining, while for some reason this one seems to have periods of trying to beat itself to death. I can remember when the avg. days posting to this group was 100 a day or better, and most were useful discussion on subject. Perhaps all the back biting and off topic noise have sent many looking other places where they might find what there looking for, Without having to putting up with the dog and pony show. As far a registering that a small thing similar to voting, but no one seems to be interested in doing that anymore either.

Tomb

Or simply pop in here occasioanblly to recommend those places - especially rcgrpups.

RC Groups has rec.models.rc.air listed right on there start page

Ya think AOL getting out of usenet has anything to do with it??

m-m

Umm, no, because the message count has been down far longer than a few months, while the AO-HELL announcement was recent.

I doubt it. BUT don't ask me what happened...I went away for awhile because life got in the way IYKWIM. I'm just glad that I got out alive and mostly sane. 8^|

I use them both and rcmrca too.

CR

Usenet is a collapsing star. One day all that will be left is a political troll cross-posted to the world. The good news is that technical newsgroups (including rmra) will be the last to go.

...and the alt.binaries.*

I sure hope you're wrong here. To me usenet is the best of the internet. Web-based forums never appealed to me, with all the commercialism and clicking, waiting and rooting around.

Still, 80,000 newsgroups is a lot to kill off.

m-m

| In article , Brian | wrote: | | > Usenet is a collapsing star. One day all that will be left is a political | > troll cross-posted to the world. The good news is that technical newsgroups | > (including rmra) will be the last to go. | | ...and the alt.binaries.*

Well, alt.binaries.* certainly is in high demand, but it's what I see dieing off first, between the massive bandwidth requirements (a full Usenet feed is around 900 GB/day now. Over 99% of that is alt.binaries.*) and the legal attacks by groups like the RIAA and MPAA.

The technical groups, like this one, will not go away willingly. I don't see Usenet dying, ever -- instead, I just see it getting less and less real traffic. People (like me) probably just aren't going to let it die.

| I sure hope you're wrong here. To me usenet is the best of the internet. | Web-based forums never appealed to me, with all the commercialism and | clicking, waiting and rooting around.

| Still, 80,000 newsgroups is a lot to kill off.

It's as easy to kill 80,000 newsgroups as it is to kill 1. In any event, most of those groups aren't used except by spammers. But the ones that are used (like this one) will not go away easily. They can shut down servers, but others will pop up.

I have enjoyed both types, usenets and online forums, for years. I didn't intend to start another one of those dumb "them versus us" threads like electric versus IC, free flight versus R/C, blah,. blah, ad nausem. This is the last post I will make to this forum, enjoy your isolation.

I am a huge proponent of web usage. BUT, for news and discussion, I must declare a preference for the usenet channel for information sharing until the newer Web RSS technologies reach a higher level of sophistication on the browser side for both managing the data streams and ease of manipulating/classifying/presenting these data streams.

Until then, please allow me to summarize my perspective on the where and why for each, and TRY to give an impartial comparison of these.

Usenet

Pros - worldwide access - news message mirroring (content redundancy) - multi-domain postings (shotgun) - HUGE visibility bandwidth

Cons - ISP provider feed censoring/selecting - messages repository at user desktop - No central, shared, all-encompassing, permanent archiving point (on a per newsgroup basis). - moderating is optional; hand-off sometimes rough - HUGE visibility bandwidth (is it too much ?)

Web

Pros - moderating is "usually" implied; it is a commercial site - Publication via independent sites (censoring done by people who are hopefully "informed") - Sites "may" produce high-quality content - Sites "may" be mirrored with fail-over - discussions tend to be "neighbourhood-oriented" (say within 6 hrs driving, maybe less, for day trips get to connect with people in this neighbourhood)

Cons - Sites "tend" to be vendor specific - discussions tend to be "neighbourhood-oriented" (don't get to connect with the world-wide community) - every site must be visited to reach ALL interested parties for a given knowledge domain - LOW visibility bandwidth (is it enough ?)

I hope this will be perceived as unbiased. It is not meant to direct anyone to either channel. Everyone has their own needs and preferred methods.

Vive la différence !!!

We only get into trouble (a plant-specific disease hits) when there is only one plant (a susceptible plant) on which we depend.

Relish the chaos ! Be one with chaos! (I am serious)

Eric

That only happens if you're using an obsolete, broken browser like IE. Under firefox, a few seconds setting up adblock makes rcgroups tolerable. Not pleasant or efficient, but tolerable.

Well then, help me out a little.

My problem with RCU is there are so many forums there, it's impossible to just see the new posts. You have to first go to the forum and scroll through them all.

Isn't there a way to simply see all the new posts for today in all forums, then mark all posts as read when done so I don't have to look at them again?

That's why I like usenet.

If you go to your preferences you can decide which forums you want to watch. This reduces the list to a manageable level.

Not that I've found, you do need to open each of the forums containing new posts (hint, look at the globe on the left to see which have new posts), read the threads you are interested in, hit mark forum read, and then go to the next one. Not as convenient as usenet, but the quality of the information is significantly better.

There is a "Mark all forums read" button on there someplace. Found it: Under the changing banner on the front of the Forums page right above the blue area where "Forum Description" is. Pretty much the same place on the "My Forums" page.