RCU lies...

Sheeez... get a hobby or something.... WHO cares about how many members they don't or don't have??? Life is too short....

How about RC? I've heard that RC is a lot of fun.

Easytiger, I know how you feel, I think. I am always ready to give my time to not-for-profit organisations, fellow flyers, people that need a hand, whatever.

But when I get ripped off by a commercial organisation that makes money out of my work without paying me I get really pissed off. To me it is dishonest to use the work of a volunteer for profit - the hobby and welfare worlds exist only because many people are willing to do a bit for their fellow man - if some organisation or individual takes advantage of that generosity to make a quid, well they are stuffing it up for others.

It is a matter of principle not to let people take advantage of me. I GIVE generously, but i get angry if I get TAKEN

David

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I've heard that too! Know any place we can get some good advice on it?

Well, I've been hearing a lot about this internet site called RCU...

I care. And lots of others do. So, if you don't have something to contribute, feel free to pass this thread up. But plenty of people DO care. Just because YOU do not does not make it an invalid subject. Since you care so little, I assume you won't need to post to this thread anymore.

It's the oldest trick in the book, all magazines give out free issues before measuring the numbers of readers, this is just taking it a step further.

If I was going to buy an ad on a site where half of the "members" were just made up names, I would be prepared to pay about half of what they are asking...

In the case of RCU I wouldnt advertise at all...

RCU is stealing money from the advertisers if they claim to have twice as many users as they have, and it is up to them to see to it that there is no "double registrations" after the merge.

Note: I dont claim to have any fact's here, I dont call RCU liars, and most of all I dont claim that any other site is better, but in this case the numbers are talking for them self...

Wasn't there something in another thread about accounts that are inactive for a certain time get removed? Maybe eveyone should simply use just one account or, better still, stay out of it completly for this time and see if the accounts go away. I for one doubt it. But then, I also doubt enough would care to try this too. People want what they want and don't care about the character of the individuals providing the service or goods. AMA election turn out demonstrates that.

They can only pad the numbers for so long before advertisers realize that they are paying for a far less target market.

There was a thread here created by a mod at RCU regarding unregistering. It was stated that if you do not visit RCU for 30 days, the account will automatically be removed. I highly doubt that it will happen. The padded numbers are what attracts advertisers to begin with. I have been investigating the legal possibilities as they have changed ownership and policies without offering members the option to accept or reject the changes.

If you are unhappy with them now, the best thing to do is not contribute anymore. Do not visit the site. Delete all cookies they have left on your machine. Contribute to other sites that you enjoy. Most of all, when purchasing from a vendor, let them know where you saw their product. It doesn't matter if it was an advertisement on another site, a magazine, a hobby store, or even a thread on a site that does not have advertising. They need to know how you found their product. If you can, avoid purchasing from any vendor that advertises on RCU.

On your way out of RCU, you can edit your posts and remove the text. I removed all my posts more than a month before the switch as I was highly offended when RCAdmin (aka Marc) referred to more than 99% of the userbase as leeches. That site could not be what it is without the free contributions of the users.

On your way out of RCU, you can edit your posts and remove the text. I removed all my posts more than a month before the switch as I was highly offended when RCAdmin (aka Marc) referred to more than 99% of the userbase as leeches. That site could not be what it is without the free contributions of the users.

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There was also a thread by an RCU moderator that advertisers are charged based on 'hit count' and not based on membership. I do not know or care if that is true, but that's what they say.

For those truly offended by the new RCU, the paragraph above makes the most sense. Search by your username and delete the content you posted. OR, you could change the text to be "anti-RCU info" and get the posts and your ID totally deleted due to 'abuse'.

Well, not really. Magazines have to account for every issue, and publish a publisher's statement every year. Keeps them honest this way.

Yep. It's fraud. Remember the AOL/Time Warner merger of a few years back? Well, lawsuits are flying from that. AOL puffed themselves up to look larger than they were. Guess what? There ARE repercussions.

You said it. Somehow, about 30,000 internet RC fans appeared out of nowhere. How many members of RCO at their height? How many on RCU just a few months ago?

Anyway, go look for yourselves at the membership list. Pick a letter, like G. Start a few pages into it, all of a sudden you will see hundreds of names, like G112, G144, G343, all registered on the same day. And Marc told me he spent $50,000 on the "coding for the merge." Anybody buy THAT one?

Too much work. Besides, I am suspended from the "RCU Market", I can't edit them anyway.

I was blown away by that comment. I remember it well.

That site could not be what it is without the

They fake the hit count, too. "HITS" are from distinct users, not each time the same user reloads the page. Go check the "counter" on an RCU Auction. Hit "refresh". Watch it count up each time. Complete baloney. It means every time the person who put up the auction checks the auction, the counter goes up. Guess what...hits don't work that way.

But I can't do anything. I am suspended. I also could not be bothered to manually remove my 2000 posts, even if I could.

That's completely false. I stayed away from RCU for most of this year, after a bad incident where I criticized a certain manufacturer over something, caught him lying, and he took out a banner ad and had Marc remove my posts and ban me from the Jets Forum. I stayed away from RCU for the better part of a year, and my name was still active when I returned. And the fake names, thousands of them, all registered at the beginning of the year, never posted, and they were not deleted. So whoever said that inactive accounts were deleted was making it up.

For a summary (Is this accurate, btw? I believe it to be.)

Exactly HOW is RCU making money off your work? The forums are free for everyone.

If you're objecting to RCU making money off of you using their site to make money (i.e. charging for use of the marketplace), well, that's just bad logic on your part.

It's pretty sad/ I hope you were not one of the ones taken. This is certainly not the first time this has happened in this hobby...anybdy remember the all-metal Mustandg scam, around 1979? I have to wonder a bit, though, about all the people who bit in to this deal. The business model, with dealers paying the manufacturer for the right to sell the product, and the complete lack of photos of the real plane...I am a little surprised that it got as far as it did.

I wonder how many recall that one!

I certainly remember reading about it in RC Scale magazine.