First blush review of Solid Edge video tutorials from private guy in Ozz.

He is very clean and concise.. no extra jabber mixed in so far... he just shows you the mouse moves with cursor circled in red, states the
name of the tabs, bars and buttons.. then does the moves. . then ends. clean. I like that, it makes remembering easy.
there is hope.... but I can totallly 100% forget doing any piping jobs on SE my guess it will be a year or so before they get a complete library (no adapters in copper, brass or ss, no spools or isolation spools, no valves of any type, only a maleable iron union. (their free piping library is just what you'd call a few random samples. not usalbe for a job... the 500 dolllar library is as above, and their primo humungus library is missint the same parts..Id have to say its because a non piping doood did the selections from catalogs more or less blind).
I willl have to move back to IV for pipe, or to TurboCAD for minor pipe.. I might buy one of the plant piping systems Im looking at.... there is a very slim chance I will be up to loading the IV pipe library into SE. I will ask around about that however.
Phil scott
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Why not just learn that in the first place? As suggested earlier. AND you already had it.
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wrote:

I decided to try SE because I was hitting too many stone walls, bugs and arcane complexities with IV, for my taste, others might not find that a problem... but i was dropped on my head as a small child, then crawled under an end table with my diaper on when I was 18 months and stuck a hair pin into a wall socket..that was nasty.,
then later in life there were all the bar brawls, gun fights, red headed women, and flat tracking accidents..Ive been hauled off screaming in pain to the hospital many times... and that just kept going on untill I was 67 and quit flat tracking.
Now im tying to calm down and learn solids but my nerves are shot.
SE, despite its issues with der piping...der steel library and der wire termination (isnt any). otherwise is about 80% simpler than Inventor (but not as capable at the high end in some aspects, engineering calculations for instance)..I found its tutorials looked good, but were bugged up a bit in spots etc..
SE is however 1,000% cleaner and much appreciated when it comes putting things into draft mode, its line widths and styles in 2D is the best Ive seen anywhere, you can do some pretty hot looking 2D things,
I have non cad people ask me 'why do your wiring diagrams look so hot'.. they mean it. (reason different line widths and styles for components, boundaries, sub boundaries, and different size wire etc... their wire routing in 3D should take that up a huge notch..
in my business a killer drawing is everything..I sell a lot of what I do with eye poping graphics.
The hole fuction in SE is much superior to Inventors to say the least, but may be a bit more limited in the technical details..for instance I can draw a solid hollow donut in SE synch. and blow holes around the perimeter in seconds with the hole function.. just drag and click. what i like in SE, I like a lot.
what they let you have of their extensively node locked Standard Parts library is very impressive,(in piping for instance, free is ONE weld elbow, in 1", not sizable) it has 600 sections
(but misses a few ultra key items like valves of any sort for instance)..is very good looking compared to some aspects of Inventor (springs for instance).
the node locked library has 650 categories.. it appears the plan is to sell it off for $500 or so per section.... one wishes them well in that regard... my view is that after a few more mechanical engineers notice this... things will change radically or some folks will be waking bow legged..
but maybe not...the scene is wonderous in that aspect
Im not waiting though. Most of my work will go back to Iv and other programs . and I will be recommending for most of my clients TurboCAD... worth a look for sure.. at 15% of what any of the majors cost, and it has more features in many but not of course all aspects...
(my work is heavy on piping..and conduit, and Im a bit toasted with der management approach to say the very least . .(I did get a free personality analysis and suggestions that was hot). (you wouldnt of made it cliff .. you either JB .. but it was free, even though extensive and repeated... I just love free things.
RE JB and his not buying this crap to check it out or review it etc? thats smart..This is the last time I pay any of thsse people to try out any of their spun up crap... there are other ways... if not, i will pass.
As many on this NG have posted, the dog and pony show, bait and switch and outright lies from vendors in this business is not its best feature.
I think there is a huge disconnect between the mentality it takes to actually design a functional factory for instance and the mentality of the var'ous code guys with no background at all in anything hands-on,,, setting up these cad programs..
ive found damn few even know what a pipe fitting is..they say they do or claim to be mechanical engineers ... then show you one elbow, in one size..and for them.thats it.. its cool.
Regardless, I am learning a lot, Im already getting some minor skid assy's drawings up, in a month or so, much more complex ones..and in a year some killer work...that will help me a lot in the national market and preclude having to do as many on site dog and pony shows... and i have fathomed the ethics level of der cad sales types... I should not have been surprised..but I was.. totally shocked actually.
In the future I will do what some of you have recommended... hand em a solid and say' model it, use yer pipe and wire routhing, produce a parametric spread sheet of it, then edit the model'...then tell them if they can do it faster and better than I can on my current system, and Im not any good at it either, I will look at their offering.
If all they can do is run a minor tutorial... well that says it all... I wont go to der dog and pony show, eat der free donut or any of that...
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