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Instead of purchasing some crap Casio calculator from a tool salesman who is a world class loser and often has no clues in regards to CADCAM, as well as many other areas of machining, here is a piece of software that I'm sure would pay for itself very quickly. I use the free version that Michael Rainey gave away for years because I don't need the estimating part of his program. I use ME Consultant to load values into my Mastercam tool libraries that I define by material. I could also further define my Mastercam tool libraries by machine but there is no need for that where I work.

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I was also given Machinist Toolbox by the author but I have not taken the time to see if I like it better than ME Consultant.

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Jon Banquer San Diego, CA

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larryrozer
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Jon Jon,

I'm back from my Loser FRIENDS House now. Have you left your 3 Friends yet, the Mouse, Keyboard or Monitor yet?

Given, Free, Demo, Sample, all are words used in your posts. I wonder, do you eat complete meals at Sam's Club on Sample Day? It would seem appropriate.

What was the angle on that dovetail cutter anyway? You keep ingoring me on this as it may have something to do with properly clamping onto the part and you don't really know the answer.....right?

And another thing, I have never claimed to know anything about CADCAM so why would you even bring that up? Diversion tactics like you use on Cliff?.

Here's a question. Why does ANY Tool Salesman need to know anything about CADCAM? Doesn't it make more sense for people who use CADCAM to know something about tooling? I know enough about CADCAM to understand that most of them don't consider things like Depth of Cut Notching while taking several depths of cut and if did tool life would be increased dramatically. (Depth of Cut Notch, Read up On It Jon Jon.)

This is the biggest problem I see while helping shops these days. Just because the part can be drawn and a toolpath posted to the control, if the tool isn't setup properly, or the wrong carbide substrate and coating (otherwise known as a GRADE just to clear that up as I probably lost you on the word "substrate") for the material being cut, or the wrong tool nose radius is used on an insert, or a ground insert instead or a molded insert is used, these factors actually relate to failure or success of a job. Of course most CADCAM operators that don't understand these cutting tool factors will tell their boss it's the loser CADCAM system they bought for them to use is the reason. whoa whoa whoa I THINK I HIT IT ON THE NOSE TONIGHT LADIES & GENTLEMEN OF THE NEWSGROUP.

Jon Jon will always be telling his boss and all of us how bad certain CADCAM Systems are due to his failure of making the cutting tool perform. The CADCAM system will always be the scapegoat instead of addressing the real problem which is his lack of Cutting Tool Applications.

I ran into this once again last month. This shop invested heavily on a great 5-axis machine and the software they promote which works fine. The shop invested in the Rego-fix powRgrip (yes it's spelled correctly, read up on it Jon Jon) system and also some of the best Submicron, HIP'd carbide (that's Hot Isostatic Process, read up on it Jon Jon) with the lastest TiALN coating for Hardmilling. A Magnetic chuck is used to make it easy for odd shaped parts to be held securely. But the Shop Owner asked the Machine Dealer why the test block machined at their showroom looked so much nicer than what they produce at their shop currently.

The Machine Dealer whom I have helped in the past asked me to take a look at this. Do you suppose it had something to do with the Joy Stick Jockey having a 1/4" Ballnose endmill hanging 6" from a 6" Gage Length Holder and only going 3/4" deep at it's max depth in this part? This kid knew how to run through the CAD CAM nicely, but didn't have a lick of sense when it came to the cutting tool.

So I would tend to think we are making a huge break through with Jon Jon's therapy tonight. It's Ok Jon, everything will be ok after this session since we know why you suffer so much on your job making scrap parts like this other JoyStick Jockey used to do. Now he's using shorter holders, shorter endmills, proper speeds and feeds which the CADCAM Cutting Tool Database had screwed up due to the higher technology of coating and the edge prep used on the tool needed slightly different chiploads applied compared to what comes stumbling out of the CADCAM Cutting Tool Database. The end result is no polishing of the part, extended tool life, more throughput from the machine, less overtime, more profit, staying more competitive in this Global Market.

All I ever try to do is help people Jon Jon. You should try it some time, it gives you a nice warm feeling at times instead of being some bitter pissed off Blogger.

Have a great evening/early morning ranting to everyone about how cutting tools don't mean jack compared to CADCAM. I know that's where you will be taking this now.

I think I may take Bottlbob's advice about sticking around in here, this is really what I do all day long anyway. Deal with Egos of people that think they aren't doing anything wrong from not taking the time to learn what's really wrong and blame it on crappy equipment their boss has given them to use. Guess what, it was their boss in most instances that asked me to help.

I wonder how fast you will post a reply to this. It took all of about

8 minutes on the last one. You should try refraining though really Jon Jon. Cutting Tools isn't your strong suit. Then again, do you have a strong suit other than clicking your mouse, typing on your keyboard or staring at your monitor? Hope to see your release of JONCAD at IMTS in 8 weeks. You are going this year aren't you Jon? I'm sure all of the Booths in CADCAM Row will be looking for you.

JR "Loser of all Cutting Tool Salesmen"

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JRWheels

Instead of purchasing some crap Casio calculator from a tool salesman who is a world class loser and often has no clues in regards to CADCAM, as well as many other areas of machining, here is a piece of software that I'm sure would pay for itself very quickly. I use the free version that Michael Rainey gave away for years because I don't need the estimating part of his program. I use ME Consultant to load values into my Mastercam tool libraries that I define by material. I could also further define my Mastercam tool libraries by machine but there is no need for that where I work.

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I was also given Machinist Toolbox by the author but I have not taken the time to see if I like it better than ME Consultant.

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Jon Banquer San Diego, CA

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larryrozer

JRWheels wrote in news:f38228e7-1591-4acb-aa4d- snipped-for-privacy@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:

Hey JR,

Got any advice for milling 17-7 Stainless 46-49 Rc?

I'm doing OK but I need to knock out some cycle time.

Among the ops here is where most of the cycle time is:

1.0" diameter hi pos insert mill 5 flutes running 763 RPM at 11.45 IPM. DOC is 0.035" per pass. Cut dimension is .25 WOC X .44 LOC. I take three passes per side of the part. Leaving a thin rectanglular shape when done.

Next is a 5/16" 5 flute end mill. Slot milling to .36" width profiling some radii, etc. Taking two passes at 0.035" and a final pass at 0.02" running 2445 rpm and feeding at 14.67 IPM.

Then I'm peripheral milling with a 1/4" 4 flute end mill running 3056 rpm and feeding at 12.22 IPM.

I'm also running a 5/16" x 0.028" key cutter at 1100 rpm and 12.0 IPM. IIRC it has five teeth.

As far as turning I'm at 200 SFM. I'll be trying an nsert on Monday that supposedly can run up to 700 SFM. Sounds optimistic to me but I've got 10 of them.

I'm grooving and cutting of through this interruption at 130 SFM with an Iscar Do Grip. Feeding at 0.001" on the interrupted cut off. I'm feeding at 0.002" IPR on the groove both tools are 2mm wide.

At this everything sounds and looks good. Nice finishes, no chatter, and while I haven't cut enough parts to gey a good feel for tool life, based on what I'm seeing It should be good. I'm using a high quality (expensive) veggie oil for coolant. Just flood right now but can easily add up to 2000 psi 8 GPM pump ported to each tool by M-code.

If you have any suggestions feel free to call me on my cell Monday. Or post 'em here. I can also send a drawing.

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D Murphy

Dan,

I was really talking you up a few weeks ago in South Carolina at a shop that was looking to purchase their first Swiss Lathe. I hope they purchase one from you guys as I know you personally could help them tremendously so they can compete at even a higher level. I contacted George and gave him the shop info.

I'm assuming it's on a Tsugami Swiss?

To summarize all of those parameters for those tools in that material at that Hardness, I would suggest to target the coating. Eifeler-Lafer out of St.Charles IL (go see them while setting up at IMTS) has a coating called Sistral. It was developed for hard milling & turning processes. It can handle more heat, something like 30% more than TiALN and can handle the shock that the hard materials can send back to the cutting edge fracturing most coatings.

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there is contact info on this site but the Sistral is so new I see now that it's not on there. Talk to them and they brochures they can send you on it.

The material composition leads you into how difficult this material will be to machine it. 17% Chromium-7% Nickel and some Manganese and Silicon, used in many "Spring Type" applications besides medical and aerospace. So it's going to twist and bend before letting go of any chips while you try to defeat it with your tooling. But let's take each tool and see what can be improved slightly.

On the 1" Endmill. I would assume the inserts are the more accurate Ground not Molded inserts ? Something that has a tolerance class of E or C. Like a molded insert would say APMT and the ground insert would be APCT refer to this link

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these inserts are ground to repeat and locate in the pocket more accurately and since they are ground to size they will slice through the material better too. In this instance the sharper tool would be great for slicing through the nickel and manganese. The hard coating will be good for the Chrome and Silicon, heat resistant and abrasion resistant respectively. If you are on a Swiss, I prefer to use a higher Helix (50 degree helix) 5 or 6 flute endmill so as flute # 1 is coming out of the cut, flute # 2 is in or nearly in the cut. This helps since in most Swiss machines the guide bushing is not clamped on the bar stock such as a vise would be holding a part in a mill, thus you are milling with a loose vise. So if the next flute is in the cut as the previous flute is exiting the cut, the tool doesn't take the shock of loading the material agains the side of the guide bushing once again. Most Insertable endmills will not kick the insert at that high of a simulated helix. I would look at possibly an Iscar Multi- Master screw-on tip endmill. They have them in larger diameters with multi flute, High Helix options. Talk to eifeler about putting the Sistral on it. Your current tool is running 200SFM at .003 Chipload which I would say is good safe place to start at with SFM but might be a bit too much on the chipload for the multimaster. Are the chips sticking to the insert at all? Have you ran this portion of the program dry ? Sometimes letting ALL of the heat go out with the chip is the way to go instead of trying to cool it while it's cutting.

For the 5/16" and 1/4" endmills, the 200 SFM again sounds fair to start at. I would make sure these endmills are made for the Mold Industry. That is, for Hard Milling applications. I have found that if the failure mode of a tool is that the material is work-hardening and the dull edge produces more rubbing action than preferred to the expected cutting action, then it's going to fail very soon after this point in time. However, if the substrate and coatings are designed for Hard Milling, even the hardness of the material won't contribute to the tool's failure as the tool is designed to cut in materials upto

70Rc. YG-1, OSG, Mitsubishi are just a few that produce these endmills.In essence you eliminated your failure mode.

On another note, and this applies to most all applications using ER collets. Look at the back of the collet and see how much of the actual diameter that is supposed to gripping the shank of the tool is actually counterbored which reduces the length that the shank is being held onto. See

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to see an example of this. Techniks is simply the brand I use to illustrate the concept. There are other brands such as Nikken that offer the same concept. But this idea gives you more gripping power, the tool runs more accurately UNDER LOAD WHILE CUTTING not simply when you are putting an indicator on it during setup. More tool life can be expected as well as nicer surface finishes.

For the Key Cutter, If possible get a Helical Fluted design. We have them made near us for the medical applications, wrap it in Sistral again. I don't know what you're doing with it but I assume some type of undercut? Sometimes these tools are used to reach further into the part. If you are using a Harvey Tool or Internal Tool Key Cutter ask them to give you slightly more "dish" on the faces than the norm angle. This will give more clearance so if the tool moves a bit while cutting it doesn't immediately rub on the large face of the tool.

Seems to me that 200SFM is your safe zone. Stick with it. But to make the claim of raising the heat range to 700SFM is a big jump. Anytime I see 17% Chrome, 7% Nickel, my range of SFM is narrowed to +/- 50 SFM, not 500SFM. Turning is all about being sure the center line is adjusted according to where the chipbreaker is working the best due to the Depth of Cut and Feedrate. Tool Nose Radius amount comes into play also. Make sure your Depth of Cut is more than 1/2 of the Tool Nose Radius to stabilize it in the cut. On a Swiss you can get by with taking less due to the rigidity of the turning concept on a Swiss with the tool being in the cut right at the guide bushing. But don't be bashful to adjust your centerline up or down after you establish the depth of cut and feedrate that is giving you a good chip deformation. Again, Sharp Chipbreaker, Hard Turning Grade, Ground Insert would be the way I would go.

For the cutoff Tool, even as much as I love the Iscar Do-Grip system, try the NTK cutoff that has the serrations. You can find it here

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On any cutoff due to these 3 things, width of the tool, the amount of feedrate and hardness/toughness of the material, there will be some downward or undercenter movement. (If the tool is upside down, yes it's going up but it's still undercenter) . The Iscar Do-Grip is either a self grip or a screw down design. Either pocket can fatigue quickly in an interrupted cut. The NTK Serrated style locks the insert nicely. Chances of this insert going behind center is slim. They lap the cutting edges so they are sharp plus they are in the 3mm width range so it should be sturdy enough to help with the interruption.

Horn has some new Swiss tools coming out at IMTS that are coolant induced and use standard ISO inserts. This may be helpful to concentrate oil flow into the true cutting zone.

After you get a satisfactory part off, try bumping the tools up something like 2-3% each in feed and speed until you see a difference( either good or bad) and if a tool begins to fail, back it off a bit. But don't stop the other tools yet. I think you will find out the 200 SFM range for turning will be safe because of the total amount of heat generated in this continous cutting action. However, with the endmills you will go up higher since you inheritly are breaking up the heat with each flute taking a cut.

I hope this is what you are choosing to run at IMTS. I would like to see it run.

Take Care Dan and keep up the great work out there in the field helping people be competitive. You are a true asset to American Manufacturing today.

JR

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JRWheels

JR,

You are SO wrong!!

  1. Yeah, mouse, keyboard, and monitor, true; but did you ever ask yourself why jb always types with only one hand?? That's like having a 24/7 friend.
  2. He has a not just a friend, but a very sig. other--well, ex-sig. other-- who just finished doing jb's prison time in FL, and is VERY pissed about this. Check-kiting, bank fraud, all the things so consistent with downloading cracked copies of other people's shit.... I suggest you check in on and/or talk to jb as often as you can, *whilst* he's still around.
  3. Likely his co-workers and even employer have a few things planned, as well.

See Cliff's HousePainter (7/10), with jb's new travails with a 1994 Sierra. Cluelessness apparently has no boundaries.

AMC is hobbling along, BB's and others' protestations to the contrary, but if just a few good people came back, it would likely be in full swing again! Interestingly, many good ngs sort of died, approx. within the same time period. Unless a ng has a constantly "renewable" subject, like cars for example (rec.autos .tech, where you'll find jb's ignerint azz), they seem to have their own life-cycle, ebb and flow.

jb is really just a boil on an asscheek, that just has to be lanced once in a while. No real biggie, yeah, messy-er than, say, high blood pressure, but ultimately not nearly as bad.

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Proctologically Violated®©

Instead of purchasing some crap Casio calculator from a tool salesman who is a world class loser and often has no clues in regards to CADCAM, as well as many other areas of machining, here is a piece of software that I'm sure would pay for itself very quickly. I use the free version that Michael Rainey gave away for years because I don't need the estimating part of his program. I use ME Consultant to load values into my Mastercam tool libraries that I define by material. I could also further define my Mastercam tool libraries by machine but there is no need for that where I work.

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I was also given Machinist Toolbox by the author but I have not taken the time to see if I like it better than ME Consultant.

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Jon Banquer San Diego, CA

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jon_banquer

The Meltdown is way overdue. We know it's coming.... but WHEN???

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Proctologically Violated®©

Instead of purchasing some crap Casio calculator from a tool salesman who is a world class loser and often has no clues in regards to CADCAM, as well as many other areas of machining, here is a piece of software that I'm sure would pay for itself very quickly. I use the free version that Michael Rainey gave away for years because I don't need the estimating part of his program. I use ME Consultant to load values into my Mastercam tool libraries that I define by material. I could also further define my Mastercam tool libraries by machine but there is no need for that where I work.

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I was also given Machinist Toolbox by the author but I have not taken the time to see if I like it better than ME Consultant.

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Jon Banquer San Diego, CA

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jon_banquer

On Sun, 13 Jul 2008 09:08:59 -0400, "Proctologically Violated®©" wrote:

========= My best guess was immediately after the US elections.

The news about Freddie, Sally and the failure of IndyMAC appears to indicate an accelerated time schedule. I would have expected that the regulators could use enough racer tape, bubble gum, hay wire and taxpayers money to keep things cobbled together until then, but then again they may have used up all the hay wire etc they had.

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Currently the blame for IndyMac is being placed Sen. Schumer [D-NY] for upsetting their time table by asking the regulators in writing about the solvency of IndyMAC.

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**http%3a//news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080713/wl_canada_nm/canada_indymac_col_4http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTTksCCXpIdFcBVhfQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBjcXBoZjEwBHBvcwMzBHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=13j25s37n/EXP=1216043650/**http%3a//news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080713/ts_afp/usbankingcompanyindymacfinanceproperty_080713103945http://rds.yahoo.com/_ylt=A0WTTksCCXpIdFcBXBfQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBjZGM1ZGE1BHBvcwM1BHNlYwNzcg--/SIG=13p2k5ud0/EXP=1216043650/**http%3a//money.cnn.com/rssclick/2008/07/12/news/companies/indymac_fdic/index.htm%3fsection=money_latest The next one up on the hit list may be Lehman Brothers, who seem to be in about the same shape as Bear Stearns was [and making the same noises BS did] just before going belly-up.
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A point to remember is that all corporate and regulatory firewalls have been removed and any one major failure has the potential to bring the entire house of cards down.

For example, one of the major mortgage players is GMAC through their Diatech Funding and ResCap[ Residential Capital] units. While GMAC is no longer wholly owned by GMC, they are still "on the hook," for any significant amounts of bad loans, including huge amounts of "upside-down" car loans. [Remember those 60 and

72 month 0 down, 0% interest offers?] Their partners [mainly hedge funds] also have considerable exposure, large amounts of investor funds, and huge amounts of leverage. When GMC goes into chapter 11, it has the potential to bring down many manufacturing and financial operations including the derivative players, in addition to dumping huge pension liabilities on the PBGC [and thus the American taxpayers]. Such a abrogation of pension responsibilities will have disastrous impact on not only the retirees who will loose not only significant income but also medical coverage, but the communities in which they live because of the lower amounts of money coming into the local economy and increased demands for social services.
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?pid=20601103&sid=aFREd.COhlF4 There is yet an additional situation to consider in that the mid-east of today now resemble the Balkans in the Spring of 1914, needing only the slightest spark to ignite the powder kegs the major powers have created in the region, with the added complication that this area has vital resources which the Balkans did not, and thus even more potential to result in a major global conflict. I can only hope that Iran does not turn out to be another Serbia. We even have the precursor conditions of an extended "le belle epoch" which is beginning to fade, with the national leaders on all sides blaming external forces. It is well to remember that the assassination of Austrian Archduke Franz Ferdinand by a Serbian, June 28, 1914, was the *PRETEXT* for war, not its cause, which in large part appears to have been a cynical attempt to divert the peoples attention from the failures of foresight and leadership by the national leadership, most of which appear to have had minimal training, education or talent for their positions. One of the most telling comments was the reported last words of the Russian Foreign Minister Alexander Isvolsky (who did as much as anyone to ignite that catastrophe) "But we only wanted a little war." (when he was shot by a red firing squad) If you are interested in the run-up to that debacle I suggest Dreadnought by Massie. A long read but worthwhile.
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Unka' George [George McDuffee]

------------------------------------------- He that will not apply new remedies, must expect new evils: for Time is the greatest innovator: and if Time, of course, alter things to the worse, and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better, what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman. Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

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F. George McDuffee

=========== Thanks for the detailed information. It is these posts that make AMC worthwhile. A very clear and info packed post.

Unka' George [George McDuffee]

------------------------------------------- He that will not apply new remedies, must expect new evils: for Time is the greatest innovator: and if Time, of course, alter things to the worse, and wisdom and counsel shall not alter them to the better, what shall be the end?

Francis Bacon (1561-1626), English philosopher, essayist, statesman. Essays, "Of Innovations" (1597-1625).

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F. George McDuffee

Instead of purchasing some crap Casio calculator from a tool salesman who is a world class loser and often has no clues in regards to CADCAM, as well as many other areas of machining, here is a piece of software that I'm sure would pay for itself very quickly. I use the free version that Michael Rainey gave away for years because I don't need the estimating part of his program. I use ME Consultant to load values into my Mastercam tool libraries that I define by material. I could also further define my Mastercam tool libraries by machine but there is no need for that where I work.

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I was also given Machinist Toolbox by the author but I have not taken the time to see if I like it better than ME Consultant.

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Jon Banquer San Diego, CA

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jon_banquer

JRWheels wrote in news:f4ebc3c2-4682-406e-b75e- snipped-for-privacy@x41g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:

Thanks I appreciate it.

Yes it is but since the part is short I'm running out of the headstock without a guide bushing. It's a new model SS20 that is very heavy duty for a 20mm machine. Particularly the milling. I have zero evidence of chatter even under high magnification.

So far the coating I'm using seems good. But given the eventual volume of this application every little improvement helps.

I'll give them a call. They aren't very far from me at all. Maybe 15 miles from my office.

I'm hesitant to say too much. I'm still competing for this business. But the part is disposable and widely used every day. Eventual volumes are in the millions.

I'll have to check in the morning but I'm aboout 90% sure they are AOCT inserts with a 0.015" radius. But they could be AOMT's.

They are working good. I'm thinking that I should try 2 passes per side rather than the 3 that I'm now taking at 0.035" DOC. Any thoughts?

With the set up I have and the rigidity of the machine the insert mill is kicking. I've talked to the Mfr. and they seem to think I'm at or near the limits at 200 SFM and 0.003" IPT. It sure doesn't seem like it though. So maybe heavier DOC is in order?

The two end mills are the replaceable tip type.

I'm using a prototype tool here where the shank of the end mill is the shape of the ER16 collet. I'm seeing less than 0.0002" TIR on the end mill tip and eliminating the collet connection makes a HUGE difference in rigidity under load.

Actually its milling a Woodruff style keyway in 4 places. It's shallow and again the tool I have is not bouncing at all but I'm thinking it could take more SFM. I'm using an off the shelf Harvey that's coated.

Another trick is to alternately have them grind a 45 or 60 degree angle half way across each tooth. It more or less gives the effect of a stagger tooth cutter.

The crap Kennametal insert (I didn't order) is handling 200 SFM. The insert I've ordered works real well in Nickel alloys like Inconel. Probably the best grade I've found. When I downloaded a hard turning pdf from the company I was surprised that this was the recommended grade for precipitation hardened stainlesses. They don't recommend the grade for the same material in the softer condition. I'm planning on starting at

400 SFM.

Heh. First thing I do is get the turning tools dead on center. Cut offs, groovers and threaders you want slightly above,

I have a problem with DOC. The bar stock the customer provided doesn't leave enough DOC for my liking but so far with the sharp coated grade from KM I've had good results. The new insert is very sharp too, but a totally different coating.

i was thinking about using something similar. But I had the Iscar on hand and so far it's working well.

I think I'll start with heavier DOC and eliminate one pass each on the

1.0" and 5/16" end mills. Then I'll kick it up from there. I think I'll also try kicking up the chip load.

It would be a good demo. Too bad it's a customer's part. But we are going to be cutting some 316 and Titanium.

You're making my head swell .

Thanks. And if you have a chance give me a call later Monday or Tuesday morning. I should have it set back up by then and can fill you in with some more details.

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D Murphy

Reminds me of a..... err...situation? with one of my set-up guys, while running a CNC dept in Wisconsin back in '89.=20

Noticed him editing a program on a job that had been running for 2 days. When I asked him why, he said "this program's messed up."

Really! What's wrong with it?, I asked.

Awww....I can't get a good finish on the back turn, he replied.

Well...did you check the tool?

Yep. It needed sharpening, and now I can't get a good finish!

And you think it's the program?

Yep.

Wait a minute, I said. This job's been running great for 2 days, without any changes to the program. All you did was sharpen the tool. You now have a bad finish, and you want to change the program.

Yep!

Don't you think they're may be something wrong with the tool??

(here's come the pride) Puffs his chest up and says, "Not MY tool!"=20

I actually had to stand there and argue with this clown about it. Come to find out, he didn't use the clearances I had specified on the tooling lay-out. "A degree or two isn't gonna make that much of a difference, Matt!"

I told him, "I appreciate your tooling grinding abilities. Now all you have to do is learn how to follow directions! Look at your part, Dude. It looked better before you sharpened the tool! Now take your tool out and go grind it using the clearances on the tooling lay-out."

Pissed him off, but he got it running again without changing the program.

Matt

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Matt Stawicki

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