The view is really sweet after you filter Rod Speed out. Try it!
Otherwise he appears in other peoples' posts, that he's baited his way into.
- posted 15 years ago
Typical mains power for mid-range PC?
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- posted 15 years ago
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed fantasys, child.
- posted 15 years ago
Irrelevant to his stupid pig ignorant claim
that the drive design heat doesnt vary.
- posted 15 years ago
It's even suspiciously cool, most rooms aren't
- posted 15 years ago
... please do describe the heat path to us, Rod.
The chips create same heat, either cooled on their surface
or through the leads to the copper on the PCB. That PCB
must also shed the heat. Let's suppose they have a really,
really advanced design that somehow 'sinks away the heat to
the metal drive frame.
Even then Rod, THAT SAME SIDE OF THE DRIVE is what needs the airflow.
Since you were off to such a lousy start again, I went ahead and snipped out the rest of the nonsense.
Even then Rod, THAT SAME SIDE OF THE DRIVE is what needs the airflow.
Since you were off to such a lousy start again, I went ahead and snipped out the rest of the nonsense.
- posted 15 years ago
... but he's good for a few laughs too...
If only there were less repetition, I want more amusement
than reading "bs way out of paper bag" 200 times in a row.
- posted 15 years ago
Funny, I had the same opinion of you. Funny how that Zalman
product you like, is never needed in a properly set up
system.
- posted 15 years ago
He keeps a few like that in his clipboard. Don't encourage him, he
might enlarge his supply like KMan! :-(
-- VWW
-- VWW
- posted 15 years ago
In a chip, but unfortunately, having that one point temp
measurement is not any guarantee that some other chip on the
same PCB, or the bearings, etc, are cool enough.
The Zalman product does as much as they can do, not being able to custom design to cool many different drives which are a moving target over time.
Unfortunately, the sides of a drive's frame are not very important to cool relative to the rest. It'd be better than nothing but far worse than (and completely unnecessary if you have) a typical bay where all the chassis intake air flows through it.
It may help cool the motor some but the product could not do very well for the purpose of total drive cooling. Even if it did a great job sinking away heat from the sides, that is not the goal, it is distanced from the source of the heat so not very effective at cooling the hottest portions of the drive.
Heatsinks applied with frag tape to any hotter areas should do better, be cheaper, but still unnecessary given a good rack and flow through it. It just isn't hard to cool drives, quietly, when routing the same airflow the system already needed, past the drives first.
The Zalman product does as much as they can do, not being able to custom design to cool many different drives which are a moving target over time.
Unfortunately, the sides of a drive's frame are not very important to cool relative to the rest. It'd be better than nothing but far worse than (and completely unnecessary if you have) a typical bay where all the chassis intake air flows through it.
It may help cool the motor some but the product could not do very well for the purpose of total drive cooling. Even if it did a great job sinking away heat from the sides, that is not the goal, it is distanced from the source of the heat so not very effective at cooling the hottest portions of the drive.
Heatsinks applied with frag tape to any hotter areas should do better, be cheaper, but still unnecessary given a good rack and flow through it. It just isn't hard to cool drives, quietly, when routing the same airflow the system already needed, past the drives first.
- posted 15 years ago
Hmm. Well, I'm looking at 18C right now. The wall thingy says 16C. Cool
breeze coming in. The HD is a Samsung SP1203N. It's in a 5 1/4" bay on
rails. I've drilled 3 holes in the slot cover and in the one below it. The
PSU fan is 120mm and running at 1250 rpm.
Weather online says 18C.
It's really quiet. The fans are quiet models.
The gpu is a 6600GT running 2D at this time. But I don't think that heat gets up where the HD is in the 2nd slot from the top.
If I run the psu fan slower the HD temp. goes up.
With more conventional room temps it runs in the high 20's and gaming with the room warm in may reach into the low 30's.
Pretty neat, eh?
I think a newer drive may run hotter.
Weather online says 18C.
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Too, the cpu heatsink is ducted by aluminum tape to the 80mm case fan
running at 1800 rpm, so the only cpu heat in there is radiant heat (I'm not
a scientist).It's really quiet. The fans are quiet models.
The gpu is a 6600GT running 2D at this time. But I don't think that heat gets up where the HD is in the 2nd slot from the top.
If I run the psu fan slower the HD temp. goes up.
With more conventional room temps it runs in the high 20's and gaming with the room warm in may reach into the low 30's.
Pretty neat, eh?
I think a newer drive may run hotter.
- posted 15 years ago
kony wrote
Just how many of you are there between those ears, gutless ?
And when you are so stupid that you cant even manage to work out what those screws that hold a case front onto the tube go thru with the tube, its a tad unlikely that you will be able to manage something a little more complicated like how those Barras get rid of the head from the logic.
Even if someone was actually stupid enough to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane.
Wrong when there is a rubber mat between the logic and the metal plate on that side of the drive, child.
Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
And when you are so stupid that you cant even manage to work out what those screws that hold a case front onto the tube go thru with the tube, its a tad unlikely that you will be able to manage something a little more complicated like how those Barras get rid of the head from the logic.
Even if someone was actually stupid enough to lend you a seeing eye dog and a white cane.
Wrong when there is a rubber mat between the logic and the metal plate on that side of the drive, child.
Never ever could bullshit its way out of a wet paper bag.
- posted 15 years ago
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:21:20 -0700, "Ed Light"
Gave us:
You know... I really should.
You know... I really should.
- posted 15 years ago
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:22:12 +1000, "Rod Speed"
Gave us:
He didn't you retarded fuck. He was talking about a plate that was attached to the PCB on a particular drive.
It was YOU that came back thinking he was talking about the lid.
He didn't you retarded fuck. He was talking about a plate that was attached to the PCB on a particular drive.
It was YOU that came back thinking he was talking about the lid.
- posted 15 years ago
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:24:08 -0700, "Ed Light"
Gave us:
Could be right on the PCB, or could be a remote sensor (off the shelf flex PCB type) mounted to the case. Spindle motors and bearings are generally not the item that fails on a drive these days. It is usually the spindle drivers.
Could be right on the PCB, or could be a remote sensor (off the shelf flex PCB type) mounted to the case. Spindle motors and bearings are generally not the item that fails on a drive these days. It is usually the spindle drivers.
- posted 15 years ago
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:27:28 +1000, "Rod Speed"
Gave us:
Yes, dumbfuck... even the "barras" main cooling requisite was the driver/controller PCB itself (still is), not the platter box/drive case, whichever one likes to refer to it as.
Yes, dumbfuck... even the "barras" main cooling requisite was the driver/controller PCB itself (still is), not the platter box/drive case, whichever one likes to refer to it as.
- posted 15 years ago
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:33:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
Gave us:
Totally relevant, you retarded fuck. A rubber isolated drive conducts NO heat the "bay stack".
You are one clueless bastard, and I have succeeded in showing folks reading this thread that fact, and I will cease responding to your dim witted ass presently.
Totally relevant, you retarded fuck. A rubber isolated drive conducts NO heat the "bay stack".
You are one clueless bastard, and I have succeeded in showing folks reading this thread that fact, and I will cease responding to your dim witted ass presently.
- posted 15 years ago
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:33:37 +1000, "Rod Speed"
Gave us:
Totally incorrect, retard boy.
Totally incorrect, retard boy.
- posted 15 years ago
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:23:02 -0400, kony Gave us:
I never mentioned any such product. You are confusing me with someone else.
I told the person looking at it that it does work to cool a drive. I never said anything about whether or not it was neccessary.
Nor did I say that I "liked it".
I never mentioned any such product. You are confusing me with someone else.
I told the person looking at it that it does work to cool a drive. I never said anything about whether or not it was neccessary.
Nor did I say that I "liked it".
- posted 15 years ago
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:50:33 -0400, kony Gave us:
Taking heat away from any portion of the drive's case will effectively reduce the entire drive's temperature, short of the PCB, which is typically not conduction cooled via the case. In fact, it is generally isolated from it as the case and spindle motor run hotter than the PCB.
The whole idea of the product is conduction cooling.
Yes, it would.
Sure it would. Just not the PCB assembly.
It is also pure aluminum, which WILL conduct heat away from it's source.
Not always.
Yes, but not all cases manage air flow correctly.
Taking heat away from any portion of the drive's case will effectively reduce the entire drive's temperature, short of the PCB, which is typically not conduction cooled via the case. In fact, it is generally isolated from it as the case and spindle motor run hotter than the PCB.
The whole idea of the product is conduction cooling.
Yes, it would.
Sure it would. Just not the PCB assembly.
It is also pure aluminum, which WILL conduct heat away from it's source.
Not always.
Yes, but not all cases manage air flow correctly.
- posted 15 years ago
On Sun, 30 Jul 2006 19:59:41 -0700, "Ed Light"
Gave us:
My AMD 64 X2 runs very cool as well.
My PCIx card runs at 35C at the GPU, and the CPU runs at 38C in a 80F environ. They get hotter when I run 3D games like Scorched Earth 3D or BFII. Then the CPU heats up to 50 or so max, and the GPU hardly misses a beat, pegging 39.
The new AMDs are far cooler than my MP dual mobo was. They ran at 140F when I ran intensive apps or games. They also ran that way when they ran two instances of a distributed process like Seti or protein folding.
I am 100% satisfied with my case temps, and even run the thing open often. I hardly notice the digital noise in my TV when I do so I am not worried.
My AMD 64 X2 runs very cool as well.
My PCIx card runs at 35C at the GPU, and the CPU runs at 38C in a 80F environ. They get hotter when I run 3D games like Scorched Earth 3D or BFII. Then the CPU heats up to 50 or so max, and the GPU hardly misses a beat, pegging 39.
The new AMDs are far cooler than my MP dual mobo was. They ran at 140F when I ran intensive apps or games. They also ran that way when they ran two instances of a distributed process like Seti or protein folding.
I am 100% satisfied with my case temps, and even run the thing open often. I hardly notice the digital noise in my TV when I do so I am not worried.
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