it seems pretty clear now when judging the facts, and not clinging to silly government propaganda that has long been discredited, firstly that both bush and bliar told lies in order to justify attacking the people of Iraq, and secondly that as Iraq posed no discernable threat to either the us or the uk, that the war was illegal in any sense of recognition of long established international law.
seems to me that looking at the complete f*ck up that has been made by the us in trying to get a grip on the security situation in Iraq, that firstly there is little or no chance of it ever being viable for us interests, to gain control of the areas of Iraq economy that the war was for (oil), and secondly that no lessons appear to have been learnt over the thousands of amerikan deaths than occurred in se.asia (both less the millions of asians that also died).
the meek acceptence of sending thousands of us servicemen to their deaths and spending billions of tax dollars to achieve this, does suggest to me that the common view in the world of the average amerikan as pretty ignorant, ill conformed, and out of touch, is not really that far from the mark!............