Ebay Gun Ban Fanatics

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Martin H. Eastburn
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I think you are in luck, but will have to get back to you. My place is in an unusually high state of disorder, I'm really thinning out my crap collection as I prepare for a yard sale. I know they are in nearly plain sight, somewhere, but then so are hundreds of other small items....

Jon

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Jon Anderson

Verizon is a public corporation and it is a regulated monopoly. Yet it recently gave a million dollars to support illegal aliens in the US. Last I heard, millions of illegal aliens are not supposed to be in the US. In fact, there is a law concerning aiding and abetting criminal intent.

Is that the American way?

The only question is, how far will you go in allowing anti-American practices disguised as business to undermine your way of life?

Yes they can.

Reply to
strabo

Lol...you havent seen my place durig normal times.....

Gunner

Reply to
Gunner Asch

Publicly traded, yes, but not publicly owned. eBay *is* a private business, owned by millions of individuals.

Reply to
Doug Miller

Of course not. If you don't like it, don't do business with them. And call and write everyone in sight -- the local DA, your CongressCritters, the President, whomever you can think of -- and demand that the laws be enforced.

"Allowing"? What do you propose as an alternative? Are you suggesting that eBay should be compelled by law to continue to sell firearms?

And that *should* be the end of the discussion.

Reply to
Doug Miller

Gunner Asch wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

And normal times would be between and including the months of January and December, excluding that one weekend in March when you decide to sping clean..... ;) Been there done that although this year it will be twice, once in the spring and once this week after filling the shops with the overflow from the living areas so company could sleep over last month... :(

Bill

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Bill

Gunner Asch wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

And buckets, don't forget those Hi Capacity 5 gallon buckets. One gallen buckets are all anyone should ever need. We should leave the hi capacity ones for police and military use only.

It's for the children after all...

Bill

Reply to
Bill

The question is not firearms. Ebay stopped selling those years ago.

The question now is anything related to the shooting sports as the announcment from Ebay themselves indicated.

There is somehow some liability they assume for allowing the sale of gun cleaning brushes?

No...its obvious that Ebay, which has become in effect, a public service or public utility has chosen to promote the antigun agenda.

Which of course is their right...however it is quite discriminatory.

Gunner

Reply to
Gunner Asch

Is this the American way?

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Clerk blames firing on illegals debate

By Valerie Richardson August 6, 2007

DENVER ? Not only did Bruno Kirchenwitz's U.S. Border Patrol baseball cap help get him fired, it almost got him shot.

Mr. Kirchenwitz, 54, was dismissed from his part-time job at 7-Eleven in Basalt after he was threatened by two Hispanic men who are suspected of later pumping five bullets into the store.

Mr. Kirchenwitz, who left work less than an hour before the shooting, was terminated by Southland Corp., which owns the 7-Eleven chain of convenience stores, for violating the company's "non-confrontation policy."

He contends he was fired for his views on illegal immigration and seeks a lawyer to sue Southland on his behalf.

"I want to put the hurt on their pocketbook because that's all they care about, apparently," Mr. Kirchenwitz said.

The June 26 episode transformed him into a kind of folk hero on talk radio and within the secure-borders movement.

Mr. Kirchenwitz made a dozen appearances on KHOW-AM's "The Peter Boyles Show" in Denver. His backers call for a boycott of 7-Eleven. He even has his own song, "Bruno's Theme," sung to the tune of Led Zeppelin's "Stairway to Heaven."

Mr. Kirchenwitz wasn't wearing his U.S. Border Patrol hat on the night of the shooting.

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strabo

Maybe this is the American way...

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Geoff Oldfather: English-speaker says landlord's message is clear

By Geoff Oldfather (Contact) Sunday, August 5, 2007

Seacoast Water Care owner Tom McKenna of Palm City talks with a customer at his store on Southeast Dixie Highway in Stuart on Thursday. McKenna is being evicted by his landlord after seven years because the business doesn?t fit in with the landlord?s desire to serve the ?Spanish need in the area.?

Seacoast Water Care owner Tom McKenna of Palm City talks with a customer at his store on Southeast Dixie Highway in Stuart on Thursday. McKenna is being evicted by his landlord after seven years because the business doesn?t fit in with the landlord?s desire to serve the ?Spanish need in the area.?

Tom McKenna is a longtime Stuart businessman who speaks only English.

He says that's why he's being kicked out of the storefront on South Dixie Highway where he has run Seacoast Water Care for seven years.

"I don't know how else to put it," said McKenna, 51.

I'm not sure I do either.

On July 5 ? the day after Independence Day ? McKenna received a letter from landlord Ivan Munroe telling him to consider another location.

Munroe said in his letter he wants to have "quality tenants serving the Spanish need in the area."

"I guess I don't serve the 'Spanish need,' whatever that means," McKenna said.

"I have plenty of Spanish-speaking workers come in here to buy water for their landscaping crews," he said. "And people in the neighborhood use the vending machines out front to fill their water bottles for their homes."

The building is on the east side of Dixie Highway, south of Indian Street in Golden Gate. Directly south of McKenna's store, across Southeast Ellendale Street, is a Texaco gas station where men, most of whom speak primarily Spanish, gather to wait for someone to hire them for day labor.

The population of the Golden Gate neighborhood east of McKenna's store also has become mostly Spanish-speaking.

To McKenna, that's irrelevant, as it should be. A customer is a customer is a customer.

But all the signs for the check-cashing store and the Mexican restaurant that share the building with McKenna are in Spanish.

Apparently the signs for Seacoast Water Care don't fit in. They're in English.

Munroe pretty much admitted that's one of the reasons he wants McKenna to move.

"I can have a vision, can't I? And his business just doesn't fit there," Munroe said. "He's not a good tenant, that's my opinion. He's been late on the rent."

Munroe said he had other problems with McKenna: a forklift that was never moved from the front of the store and salt and other supplies in messy piles in an unprotected side yard facing Dixie Highway.

But what Munroe said about prospective tenants is the real clincher.

"Mexican people come in, you know they're going to stay. You know they're going to pay the rent," Munroe said.

I guess seven years in the same location isn't staying power.

And as far as the rent goes, don't rent to mainly English-speaking guys like McKenna ? if you follow Munroe's business model.

Munroe is a private business owner, and he can do anything he wants with his property including fulfill his "vision."

But there's a double standard, and I don't think Munroe is a villain as much as he's the symptom of a bigger societal ill: Try telling a minority business owner to leave so you can bring in a quality tenant to serve the need of the English-speaking population.

You'd have activists organizing protests so quick it'd make the annual snowbird migration seem slow.

McKenna said it's going to cost between $10,000 and $15,000 to move ? assuming he can even find another storefront in 30 days.

And he knows he's going to lose some of the customers he's served for seven years.

I asked him why he didn't get an attorney and fight.

"After this? I don't want to be here," McKenna said.

I don't blame him.

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Reply to
strabo

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned Jon Anderson wrote on Sun, 05 Aug 2007

19:25:02 -0700 >

my catch phrase is "I remember seeing them, where was I when I saw them?" As in, which of three tool boxes, two "shops/storage units" etc.

Reply to
pyotr filipivich

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What??? WTF are you talking about? Who is whining? I believe you are responding to the wrong person. Robert did not whine about E-Bay no longer selling guns.

Robert stated that he doesn't deal with E-Bay.

This would not effect Robert. Sue

Reply to
Sue

The irritating thing is that I've never heard of an instance a firearm bought on eBay, when they did allow such transactions, resulted in even an accidental death or significant injury. Yet eBay appears to do so very little to prevent or even attempt to prevent, for instance, rampant copyright and trademark fraud when people sell one ripped off CD or DVD after another. The company is pure free market enterprise at its best - and glaring worst.

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El Cazador

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Too Few Neurons is an antigun hack and needed to go off on a rant. He simply picked Robert to look foolish over. It could have been anyone.

Fortunately I kill filed the fucktard some while back..now I dont have to read his spew except when piggybacked on someone elses posts.

Gunner

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Gunner Asch

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned Gunner Asch wrote on Mon, 06 Aug 2007

03:00:08 -0700 in rec.crafts.metalworking :

Normal times. Is that some time between the best of times and the worst of times?

Or more like during visiting hours?

exeunt pyotr singing "Parsley,Sage, Rosemary and Thyme.."

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pyotr filipivich

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It appeared to me that they were.

I read most of the thread as it unfolded. My memory being what it is..... I believe that one person who disagrees with you is Strabo whose posts, for some reason, are not showing up on my reader. Still, it appeared that you were directing your comments to Robert which did surprise me since, yes, you do hold the same opinion. My apologies. Sue

Reply to
Sue

Right, just like the idiots who want to ban .50 BMG rifles because of the criminal use of them - which is ZERO. Or to ban bayonet lugs and pistol grips on "assault weapons" which have no use to common criminals. Those same idiots operate on a catch-and-release program for criminals, rather than protecting you and me from them by keeping them away from us as they should be.

I don't give a crap what eBay will or won't allow sold, I switched to auctionarms, gunbroker, and gunsamerica a few years ago when eBay decided they didn't want to facilitate legal transactions in regards to firearms. So them not wanting to broker sales for springs, screws, and magazines? It's a non-issue. Anyone who had been paying attention would have switched away from them already.

Reply to
Dave Hinz

TMT: What specific laws would you deem responsible? All the drug laws on the books certainly haven't stopped or even slowed the meth labs and drug smuggling. In fact those laws have created a lucrative industry. It isn't laws against gun ownership that we need for the criminally oriented could care less about these laws. We need some process to make it really not a good idea to use a gun or an axe, knife or ball bat against someone else unless your life is threatened. Making pistol grips on rifles, and 30 round clips illegal is a farce that doesn't yield any positive results. Probably responsible for driving up the costs but nothing more. I'm sure that I can get a full automatic weapon in LA. There already laws against that that are being ignored. Why would the "responsible" gun laws find a more fertile field?

Reply to
Stuart & Kathryn Fields

TMT: I couldn't disagree with you more. "Traceable to me"? That means if my gun is stolen and used in a crime I'm now a criminal. Don't we have enough criminals now? That also means that any gun used in a crime that is traceable to the US government also brings down a penalty to the Government, which by the way all taxpayers even those who have no control over the government arsenal are penalized. No that law does nothing but really discourage private gun ownership. Gun crimes using black market smuggled in guns would continue and may even increase since the legal ownership of guns that might be used for self defense would probably decrease. Note that "Hot" break ins, that is break-ins when people are home are higher in countries that have laws against private gun owner ship. I live out in the country where if I call 911 with an emergency, I can be guaranteed at the very best 30 minute response, (if they don't get lost, which has happened more than once). If I can't protect myself, I'm in trouble.

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Stuart & Kathryn Fields

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