For those who like to have "thumbnails" of videos

My concerns are anything beyond simple and streamlined HTML for eBay auctions is bloat and unnecessary. Sure, a perl script *might* be helpful to some sellers that bulk upload, but templates and TurboLister blows scripts away.

I can agree with that. Bandwidth and speed aren't really and issue on my end, but I still list all my auctions as streamlined and minimal as possible. This doesn't mean they don't look good or are highly informative, it means they are optimized for space savings and quick download. Of course, I include a maximum of two quality 400 x 400 pics that link to higher resolution ones if the potential buyer elects to click them. People don't realize that there are actually large portions of the eBay community that still use dial-up, especially in the rural areas. That being said, eBay adds enough bloat, there's no need for sellers to be part of the problem.

Rita

About the only one that I have is radioham (airy bean) in ukrme

Bugger! I bet that was an unhappy moment.

Better than chasing lots of little spots one at a time...

I use a soft (polyurethane rubber coated) roller to spread the blue. The roller was sold for pressing down the glued edges of wallpaper and is about

Regards Mark Rand RTFM

Don't remember to have read him.

Learning process a bit stretched.

Got one yesterday night for a beer.

Will try today.

Thanks, Nick

This thread is trashed on my computer so I'm only seeing part of it. Are you painting the reference surface and transfering to the surface you are correcting, scraping off the spots will color?

Thanks,

Wes S

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Exactly (if "will" means "with" ;-) ). But there are three classes of colored spots. Takes some time to distinguish them. High spots Medium spots and low spots

Nick

Yes, you are correct. Nothing like having a German correct an Americans English. ;)

I take it that the low spots are the darkest ones?

Wes S

Ah, sorry! Typos are harder to understand for me than for native speakers. No nickpicking[tm] here.

No. High spots are very light in the middle and do have a dark(er) boundary. Middle spots are dark (like the boundary of the high spots) Low spots are light and the boundary fading out.

With some graphics it would be easy to explain why*). I'll make them when I write "the beginners scraping page". But only when my prism is finished. But now I'm a bit distracted with a new version for YADRO.

Nick

There is an evil little trick that I worked out and use sometimes. After rubbing the object on the blued surface plate, rub it on a clean part of the surface plate. This will highlight the high spots very well. This is useful in the middle of the job when you are still using a fairly thick layer of blue on the surface plate but want to know where the worst areas are.

Mark Rand RTFM

Thanks. Didn't come to rubbing on a clean part, but rubbing more. Your trick is great.

Anybody listening thinks we are experts?

Thanks, Nick

I am looking forwards to seeing that when you put it up on www.

Wes S

It must be all bullshit. Otherwise we'd be good enough to get a job doing it :-)

Mark Rand RTFM

====================== Many a truth is oft spake in jest....

More than likely the "hands on" people in this thread are fully qualified to get a job doing hand scraping, at least at the journeyman level.

Until I retired, I spent many years doing technology transfer, and industrial training in private industry, before getting into post secondary education full time.

Being a slow learner, I was concerned that I was doing something wrong in that the considerable amounts of time, effort and money the students, their employers [and later the tax payers], and I were investing in "training - training -- training" did not seem to produce the expected results, or indeed, *ANY* measurable results (although my "smile sheets," and "feel good" surveys were always highly positive).

While it seems stupidly simple, the reason for this continues to escape many people, probably because it is *HIGHLY* unpalatable...

First, the successful learner must have the necessary aptitude and talents. Like Grandma said "you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear." In many cases a particular set of talents, abilities, etc. are required in several fields, and the learners (or their parents), being rational, tend toward the more popular fields, which are generally the higher paying *AT THE TIME OF CAREER CHOICE*.

Second, the successful learner must have the facilities to develop their skills. This especially includes time, the required facilities, and to a somewhat lesser degree, a qualified instructor. The numbers of participants in both AMC and RCM that are essentially self-taught show that while a qualified instructor can be very helpful, and may speed up the learning process, it is by no means a requirement. However, the availability of time, materials and a place to practice is critical.

Third, and possibly most important, is a continuing and stable demand for the skill cluster [trade] the learners develop. It is a frequently overlooked fact that most people [and their families] like to eat every day, and will *NOT* seek employment in, or remain in, any trade, that does not support this habit.

One of the most pernicious concepts of industrial education was the concept of "skills banking" which assumed the individual would/could retain the competency/qualifications they developed

One of the major contributing factors in American industry is the exponential growth in "inhale-exhale" employment, where all employees including the CEO are temps, until the next chapter 11 filing.

Unka George (George McDuffee) ............................... So long as a man rides his Hobby-Horse peaceably and quietly along the King's highway, and neither compels you or me to get up behind him-pray, Sir, what have either you or I to do with it? Laurence Sterne (1713-68), English author. Tristram Shandy, bk. 1, ch. 7 (1759-67).

Wait! Scrapers ask 800.- EUR a day. I'd be happy with just 500.- (for now).

A freelance scraper with his own set of tools and a good reputation will make big $$$$. Only thing missing is reputation. But we are working on it ...

Nick