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Yep. This is the problem. That statement right there puts you square into the far-left pinko liberal camp according to a small select group. Like Goldwater said, the party left you, you didn't leave the party.

Uh oh, an ACLU type, eh? You're a dangerous radical then. You're only allowed to support *one* of those amendments, you know!

:^)

Jim

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jim rozen
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Of course we can all get along, except for the fact that Muslim Fundamentalists make doing so very difficult by their own choice. Haven't you yet noticed how utterly irrational most of there positions are? They hehave like spoiled children, who insist on having their own way at any cost, immune from the standards of conduct in a civilized world.

What is really sad to be is that Muslims here in the US are for the most part no better or no worse than the Methodists, Baptists, Catholics, etc. are. Still, remerber the American reaction to the Lutherians during WWII, when in Germany the Lutheran Church embraced the Nazi Party and extermination of the Jews and "other social misfits".

Sadly, younger readers are unable to remember this era, and the extent to which national reaction and revulsion can rise.

It would be my advice to the Muslims that they do a much better job of distancing themselves from their 'Middle-Eastern' brethren, else face the consequences which are predictably soon to come if this thing continues.

Harry C.

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Harry Conover

Fortunately the guy on the drugs, Kerry, is not within reach of the red button!

Hasn't almost everyone noticed that he is usually 'stoned' when he shows up in front of the cameras to make his content free pontificatios. Hell, just look at his eyes, his gestures! Tell me that these are not the trademark of a drug head.

Don't know about your, but I'd prefer a president that has been off both the bottle and drugs for over ten years. There is just too much at risk to vote otherwise.

Harry C.

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Harry Conover

"Harry Conover" wrote [snip]

I suppose you can offer some scintilla of evidence to support this?

These are not the trademark of a drug head. I am highly trained and experienced in detecting the signs and effects of drug intoxication.

They are, however, the mark of a more or less charisma-free, droning public speaker who can neither manage the pithy reductionist sloganeering expected of a political candidate today, nor connect meaningfully with an audience more used to sound-bites and platitudes than the nuanced, complex and analytical thought processes of a highly intelligent and insightful politician addressing difficult and important issues of policy.

Since Bush never admitted, confronted, nor received treatment for his Alcohol Dependence Syndrome, and rumors of renewed drinking, abbarent behavior, and use of psychoactive prescription medications continue to swirl around him, I'd say you'd be better off voting for Kerry.

Jeff

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Jeffrey McCann

The so-called assault weapons ban had nothing to do with machine guns. The latter remained legal under the 1934 act all throughout the duration of the so-called assault weapons ban.

All the so-called assault weapons ban did was make illegal production of certain ordinary semiautomatic rifles which had cosmetic similarities to military weapons, ie bayonet lugs, flash suppressors, pistol grips, etc. Meanwhile, more traditionally styled, but functionally the same, semiautomatic rifles continued to be legally sold.

It was a stupid law, supported by stupid people unable to recognize the difference between cosmetics and function. Good ridance to it.

Gary

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Gary Coffman

This sounds like a sound-bite about that dumb judge with the 10 comandments tombstone in his courthouse. He was just being subborn and difficult until they had to haul him (and it off).

I don't understand what consequences they could face, unless the first amendment has recently been repealed.

Jim

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jim rozen

Gun ownership. An issue riddled on both sides with fanatics.

Jim

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jim rozen

One of the problems for Muslims in general is the difficulty they have denouncing the nuttiness of those who claim to be fellow Muslims. There are various complex intellectual and historical reasons for this, compounded by what is perhaps best described as intellectual and physical cowardice.

This is a strategy which is useful for getting along in a Muslim society, which typically has an enormous plurality of beliefs under the broad heading of "Islam" (It's a really big tent, folks) and which carries the idea of 'community standards' to almost unbelievable lengths. However it fails rather badly when you have to relate to a non-Muslim society that tends to see 'Muslim' as an all-encompassing description.

This is causing them problems already and it is going to cause them a lot more problems in the coming years.

Basically, at least a significant fraction of Muslims are going to have to get a lot smarter about this. It will be interesting to see how long it takes them to wise up.

--RC

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Rick Cook

Incidentally, does anyone have a specific reference or quote for Bush's mocking the woman -- including circumstances?

Just mildly curious.

--RC

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Rick Cook

Confusing all Muslims with a few fanatics would be dangerous for non-Muslim Americans. However it would be disastrous for Muslims here and abroad.

--RC

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Rick Cook

This law, and similar anti-gun laws, aren't really about fanaticism, Jim. As Gary says, it was "stupid" if it was taken as a direct attempt to reduce particular kinds of crime.

But it wasn't about that. It was about what direction the country is going to go with gun ownership. It attempts to define "legitimate" from "illegitimate" guns and gun-ownership. It tries to separate and define attitudes about guns.

That's what makes it such a brutal battle. Modern military-style guns make a great symbol of the cultural war over guns. If the idea was substantive, the high-capacity magazine issue should have been the one that dominated the debate. But instead it was pistol grips, bayonet lugs, flash suppressors, and collapsing stocks. Magazine capacity is a quantitative issue that has no clear demarcations. Bayonet lugs are qualitative.

Welcome to the culture wars. d8-)

Ed Huntress

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Ed Huntress

Yeah, those drive by bayonetings are such a terrible problem. Gotta ban those mounting lugs, its for the children.

Gary

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Gary Coffman

Yeah, but while you're grumbling there over a lug that you aren't likely to use, anyway, I'm sure you're aware of what the issue is. I think it's more threatening to the pro-gun culture than ignorance on the part of the general public about the details of "assault weapons." Consider that even many people who know more than a little about it want to ban the things, anyway.

That's a direct assault on an underlying value, not a mistaken law that's based on misinformation. And that's what I believe is actually going on.

Ed Huntress

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Ed Huntress

Sure, sure. But one of the better ways to respond to that sort of assault is with correct information and a healthy dose of ridicule.

Gary

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Gary Coffman

Ayup..Im sure Marx and Ingles consider you to be right winger. From their point on the scale.

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child - miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosphy of sniveling brats." -- P.J. O'Rourke

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Gunner

around

sentence.

Certainly not if you are a loudly self-proclaimed fundie .. that bit about "thou shalt not kill" matters not one whit. Nor, to the shrubbie, did that fancy liberal science stuff called DNA testing.

At least the governor of the State of Illinois had some sense.

Well, that keeps the US ranked right up there with Iran .... North Korea probably has a better record, right? Missed the first post to this thread?

Carpe blogger !!!

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Cliff Huprich

Then sell Yellowstone, the Grand Canyon, etc. and collect property taxes from the papermills.

Gummer would also probably pay a good price to shoot eagles & spotted owls.

Sort of like Cheney shooting Pheasants:

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killed 417 with the VP getting ore than 70). I wonder how many were still in the pens that they were raised in though. If "hunting" ducks, naturally he takes along a Supreme Court justice (just as one of the cases against him is coming up).

Carpe Blogger !!

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Cliff Huprich

Like heavily armed police?

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Cliff Huprich

Translation: drug burnout

Cites!

Strider

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Strider

NO. You are merely concerned that enough american have awakened and have come to understand that the leftwing loonies, led by socialist lawyers, have nearly destroied our country in the name of political correctness.

You are free to criticize, due to patriotic Americans that have protected your right to spew. I am free to call you a numb nut, leftwing, liberal, d*****ad for the same reason.

Strider

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Strider

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