OT - Jobs Lost

From what I've read, many historians are of the opinion that having the bulk of heavy industry - machinery, operators, and raw materials - in the North was instrumental in defeating the South in the War Between the States.

Didn't Somebody Famous say something to the effect that folks who don't read history are damned to repeat it?

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Tom Stovall
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George Santayana a.. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." Life of Reason, Reason in Common Sense, Scribner's, 1905, page 284

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George Santayana was a philosopher, poet, critic of culture and literature, and best-selling novelist.

Lane

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Lane

All these proposals would do would be to force companies to move their *entire* operations off shore. They'd simply become chartered in a country more friendly to business.

Now with *all* corporations foreign corporations, the only thing left for you to do is to impose tariffs on all imported goods, which will defacto be *all* goods. But tariffs are actually a tax on the domestic consumer, who now doesn't have a job since all the companies moved overseas.

So all you will have achieved by this sort of legislation is force the US into becoming a third world country with no corporations and no jobs.

Gary

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Gary Coffman

Sure did. But the Bush administration(s) are like the Bourbons - they learned nothing and forgot nothing.

Regards,

Marv

Lane wrote:

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Marv Soloff

I didn't say to make the penalty huge. I liked Marv's idea that we could impose a cost to be paid by companies when they send one job overseas. It wouldn't have to be exorbitant, just enough to make them think twice about this.

Jim

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jim rozen

So they would have to compete in a world market with companies who were not "taxed" on the jobs they hire from other countries. Like it or not the economy is a world economy and we must live in it. You/we must accept a lower standard than we'd been accustomed to as the world work forces begin to equalize. That's when the playing field will indeed be level.

Greg Sefton

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Bray Haven

Well, we'd have to fight it with what we have anyway. Modern full scale warfare is so high intensity and rapid tempo there isn't any time to crank up production lines.

Gary

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Gary Coffman

Whoa...NOW we agree..hate the thought of more government but somebody has to interviene with more profits /wo ethics and it ain't gonna be us po' support folks.

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Tbone

But Daaaaaaaaaaavee...its all Bush's fault!!!!!!!!

Sigh. Excellent post btw.

Gunner

"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas

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Gunner

Jim..I think you have it backwards. Any attempt you make to make anything less profitable will simply be worked around, even to the point of taking the entire company out of the US.

lets try a different tack..how about making it MORE profitable to keep jobs in the States?

rather than penalties..how about tax advantages for keeping workers home?

While they sound similar..let me assure you they are not.

Gunner

"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas

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Gunner

Notice in the news recently Perot who refered to the "sucking sound" with NAFTA has reorganized his operation creating 3500 new jobs in India. Do I hear a Perot BJ in the wings!!

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Tbone

Big Gold Star!!! By making it profitable to once again do business in the US, is the only way we can keep business here.

This does not mean wiping out all protections for the worker, but by wiping out all negative hinderences to the Company.

Bravo!

Gunner

"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas

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Gunner

And how do you know that?

yeah, I know. You prefer Fox News. Nice and cozy. And don't forget the flag waving.

Abrasha

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Abrasha

Would you please let us know where you read those statements. What policy journbals are you talking about?

Or are you just another typical red blooded hot heraded American commie bashing redneck?

Whacko! Abrasha

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Abrasha

Maybe you should try some education Greg :o). Abrasha

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Abrasha

Maybe you should let up on the do-it-yourself electroshock. Abnoxious.

Gunner

"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem. To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized, merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas

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Gunner

Look moron, a very few years ago it was all over the national papers that a Chinese General had made an overt threat that they would nuke LA in response to our presence in the Far East. It came out in the ensuing hubub that this was far from a wild statement by a fringe rogue general, but was an accepted inevitability in the consensus of scholarly Chinese policy discussions.

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no spam for me today thank you

They've been caught fabricating "news" over & over again and embellishing the stuff they didn't make up. Where have you been "ab"?? Now the govt is talking about disbanding it altogether because it's credibility is zilch. You obviously have something against the flag. Your posts reflect it. Too bad thr USSR btoke up. We could send your ass over there & you'd have been happy :o). Greg Sefton

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Bray Haven

Maybe you should try trolling for bass. You'll get more out of it :o) Greg

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Bray Haven

No, simplest solution is that the executives of any company that outsources labour must be paid the prevailing rate paid in the low cost country and receive the same benefits and working conditions.

Imagine it

CEO on $40k pa, company bicycle, subsidised noodles or rice for lunch.

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alan200

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