Wedding Rings

On 2 Sep 2004 10:11:38 -0700, the renowned jim rozen wrote:

Interesting- according to the patent application 20040154528 August

12, 2004:

The approximate composition of human ash: [0036] CaO 39.0% [0037] P205 50.2% [0038] K20 4.8% [0039] Na203 3.8% [0040] MgO 0.9% [0041] SiO2 1.1% [0042] Fe203 0.2% [0043] ZnO 0.1%

(No carbon/sp)

[0049] The manufacture of diamonds using human remains is to be completed using any number of known methods. The human/animal remains prior to desiccation/heating/cremation shall be referred to as the "remains". These methods include but are not limited to the following: collection of carbon from a gaseous phase during the heating/cremation process, or heating the subject at a temperature at or lower than that necessary for cremation in order to facilitate the collection/formation of carbon. The carbon may be collected at a later stage of cremation or after cremation. In addition, this may be done in a low oxygen or controlled oxygen environment. In order to collect carbon suitable for diamond creation the remains may be heated in a contained/controlled environment--for example a reusable or one time use stainless steel containment vessel or other vessel or crematorium that may have filtered collection vents or events which draw the carbon/volatile material/gas through a filter or collection chamber prior to final dispersion. The carbon may also be purified and/or converted into graphite. During the diamond making process a "seed" diamond may be used as a seed for the end diamond product. The diamonds generated from the human carbon may be re-mixed with other diamonds or mixtures and re-subjected to the diamond making devices or other processes for one or more trials in order to increase the size of the final product or enhance the final product.

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

On 2 Sep 2004 10:11:38 -0700, jim rozen calmly ranted:

Right, we have low-carbon bodies. That must be the reason our fingers don't sharpen well on grinders and diamond plates.

We sure do after they've been in a retort for an hour at a thousand degrees F.

If you can figure out how to keep carbon from burning in air at that temperature, you got yerself a nobel prize there.

Jim

Note that this stuff is in the form of *oxides* which is what happens when the elements are heated in the presence of oxygen. The exact same thing happens to all the carbon, but they don't list the CO and CO2 that comes off the process. They're not "in" the ash.

Heh. More seed, less Aunt Tilly. She's in there someplace. Basically it sounds like they take a fresh diamond and rub it on the sole of her foot before they do the burn. Atomic transfer complete!

Jim

Or make a pair of bellybutton rings? Hey, I live in California. Everything is pierced here.

ffredd

On 2 Sep 2004 12:27:10 -0700, jim rozen calmly ranted:

That reminds me of the joke I received this morning.

--snip-- Elmer's Egg Business

Elmer was in the fertilized egg business. He had several hundred young layers called pullets and eight or ten roosters, whose job was to fertilize the eggs. Elmer kept records and any rooster that didn't perform went into the soup pot and was replaced. That took an awful lot of Elmer's time so he got a set of tiny bells and attached them to his roosters. Each bell had a different tone so Elmer could tell from a distance, which rooster was performing. Now he could sit on the porch and fill out an efficiency report simply by listening to the bells. Elmer's favorite rooster was old Brewster, a very fine specimen he was too. But on this particular morning Elmer noticed old Brewster's bell hadn't rung at all! Elmer went to investigate. The other roosters were chasing pullets, bells-a-ringing. The pullets, hearing the roosters coming, would run for cover. BUT, to Elmer's amazement, Brewster had his bell in his beak, so it couldn't ring. He'd sneak up on a pullet, do his job and walk on to the next one. Elmer was so proud of Brewster, he entered him in the county fair... and Brewster became an overnight sensation among the judges. The result... The judges not only awarded Brewster the "No Bell Piece Prize" but they also awarded him the "Pulletsurprise" as well.

--snip--

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Ive seen more than several life times worth of crispy citters in the military, and worked in a crematory a couple summers as a kid.

Uncle Bill (mortician/coroner) told me they were largely carbon with the trace elements.

Gunner

"In my humble opinion, the petty carping levied against Bush by the Democrats proves again, it is better to have your eye plucked out by an eagle than to be nibbled to death by ducks." - Norman Liebmann

I should have said "Charcoal like" residue. Sorry

Gunner "In my humble opinion, the petty carping levied against Bush by the Democrats proves again, it is better to have your eye plucked out by an eagle than to be nibbled to death by ducks." - Norman Liebmann

THis is at odds with the analysis given in Sphero's post, herewith copied:

==================== The approximate composition of human ash: [0036] CaO 39.0% [0037] P205 50.2% [0038] K20 4.8% [0039] Na203 3.8% [0040] MgO 0.9% [0041] SiO2 1.1% [0042] Fe203 0.2% [0043] ZnO 0.1% ====================

It may be that the incinerated bits you've seen were not run fully to completion, something that that typically (but not always, do you recall the outfit in arizona of ten years or so ago?) the pro outfits take pains to do.

Jim

You should have said "remains of the dearly departed" aka ashes. Actually, you want charcoal you cut off the air supply:

it's in a metal pot that would have to under go a metalworking process)

A diamond grading report can be generated by a jeweler which identifies the inclusions in the stone. Often, these inclusions are quite easy to see by eye, else a 10x loupe. If you're really worried, look first and see if you can identify the specs in the stone. If not, best to have a jewelery look at it. Lastly, rec.crafts.jewelry is a couple doors up on the left....

Joel. phx

Cremains. If you don't believe me, google it.

A compotent Jeweler can install an " Arthritic Shank " on Your wife's ring. Perhaps the best solution. Gold reclamed from old rings can be full of undesireable alloys for casting. This is why it is often melted into a nugget.

If you are afrade of having your diamonds switched, have them surveyed or apparised. There will be an additional charge for this, but you can often get a discount from your insurance co. The apparisal will be used to determin the replacement value of the new ring.

I would recomend, from the writen discription given, that you have an Arthritic shank installed on your wife's ring and a Nugget pendent made of Your old wedding band for her.

I have been a Journeyman Millwright for 28 yrs with other Journeyman trade certifications . I retired 5 yrs ago ( bad back ) to become a Certified Jeweler and Gemologist after 2 1/2 yrs of fulltime schooling. I will recomend the " rec. crafts. Jewelry site on the Google Groups. It is well moderated and has several jewelers more experienced than I contributing.

Robb GGS and JA certified.

Never heard of one, I'll have to check it out. The rings are made to look weaved , but if I or we changed the design to accommodate an Arthritic Shank.

I called one promising place , but they want to make an appointment which I always have problems with. For the guy with the pool I have to be at the store to remind the owner while he's going through old plans.

Seems like I have to work on every Labor Day weekend. At least I don't have to go camping at 11,000 feet !

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 13:53:31 -0700, Sunworshipper calmly ranted:

Pobrecito!

When I went over to NM to scout for new places to move to and live ('02, ABQ was a possiblity), I stopped in and harassed Lew Hartswick. He and his wife are great folks and very hospitable, they even put me up for the night and made a king's breakfast for me the next morning. I stopped at the Sandia Tramway and went up for the sights. At the top, Sandia Peak is 10,678', I hiked around for nearly an hour. On the way down, people were talking about the altitude and I realized that I wasn't bothered by it at all. I guess I'm lucky in that respect.

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Does that mean U2 ? I just got a call for another major custom after the fact add on , that was a good 6-8 pools ago. Now I have 3 jobs that all want to be done or at least on by Tuesday. I can't even get the tile till then. LOL It may look simple , but it's like rock climbing and I get tired after 8-10 hrs. and if I keep going longer hours I'll not wake up for at least the next day. When I flat out refuse to do a job and say fire me all I get is please. One time I quit and told him not to call me , I got about 8 more of these are special people and you have to do it before I got a couple of months off.

That would be nice. Seems like I'm the one to put up 3 strange tents in the dark when everyone else is bewildered. I'm exhausted getting out of the car 2 miles up. I might as well stay home even though I like sea level.

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 17:13:41 -0700, Sunworshipper calmly ranted:

No, it means, roughly, "Poor little sh*t." in Messican. I learned many of these essential words and phrases whilst living in LoCal.

I have some web clients like that. They call at 9pm and want something done before I go to sleep that night. I finally get some relief when I go to triple-time billing. Single from 8-5, double from 5-8p, and triple from 8p-8am.

99% fall off at double, but I'll work an occasional night for $195/hr. My Jello Page ad finally hit yesterday so I might be busier in the next year. It'd sure beat starving. (I'm self-employed and enjoy the feast/famine syndrome)

Do that yourself and it'll pay for part-time helpers while avoiding employees and the massive headaches which go with them.

If you have a car, how can you put up tents in the dark?

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Thanks for the kind words Larry. :-) ...lew... (still hanging in there )

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 13:55:44 GMT, Lewis Hartswick calmly ranted:

You're very welcome.

P.S: Ready to get rid of that old Crapsman drill press yet?

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No way. That was one of the best acquisitions I ever made.

6 inches of quill travel and snug as, (well you put the comparrison in here ) :-) ...lew...