No, he should get his facts straight. Friends of ours evac'd to Dallas last weekend, and they told us the highways were in fact being used with all lanes configured as outbound. That'd be I-10, IIRC.
Doug
He said missiles.
And so that the highway department had time to clean up so the barrels and cones wouldn't end up as missiles in the wind...
PRose
Same here.
Chuck
Trying to keep some rocketry connection!! ;->
PRose
What's the pre-tax price difference?
Don't know for sure. I *think* it is slightly higher, but not much.
Australia has probably the most similar conditions to the US outside Nth America. Lotsa places are worse for tax than here. Mind you, there are places that are better as well. I recall many years ago, Indonesia actually subsidized petrol. Once, when the government announced that it would reduce the subsidy and that the pump price would rise from 3 cents to 4 cents per liter (Australian equivilant) there were nearly riots.
$2.84 9/10 --- Round Rock, TX (Austin metroplex) on Monday, 5 Sept. ...though I also saw it as low as $2.79 9/10 in the area.
Because of Government taxes in the UK, we are currently paying around $8.00 a gallon for gas. It is probably more than 15 years since gas was as low as $3.00 a gallon.
So I still look forward to vacationing in the USA.
John Sim
The sad thing is that as recently as July 4 it was $1.65 here.
Randy
Yeah, it's that sudden huge jump that makes it so rough. A gradual increase over several years would be easier to absorb.
I think it's been nearly a year since it was under $2 here in Sandy Eggo. In early 2002 it was as low as $1.07.
Verna & I were out that way about 6 weeks ago for the weekend, getting our daughter ready to go back to Iraq, helping load the Pod, storing the car, etc. When we left home the gas prices here were about $2.27 per gallon. When we went to Miramar to drop her off as she left, I noticed the base was charging about $2.85 and thought WOW! because it was over $3.00 around the city. When we got back home just a couple of days later, it had jumped 30 cents here just over the weekend and is now at $3.03.
I know several people involved with state suppliers here and they all were saying before the hurricane, it was all pure profit taking and nothing but! This morning I just heard on the local Fox station that Alabama is at 95% capacity for storage but the prices keep creeping up.
Randy
Trust me, Alan, riding a motorcycle to work is no hardship. Been doing it for years...getting 50 mpg is just even better now. Had two people wanting to buy bikes from me last week, and I have seen more scoots on the road in the last week than ever before.
I commute 300 miles weekly, which equates to ~6 gallons of gas. Was practically free at a buck per gallon, and is hardly a hardship at 3.
Only competition I have for firewood is a blasted beaver...but I have "got something for him".
;-)
Well, taxes [ :-( ] could have been imposed to stabilize the price of gas at the pump. Katrina is short time blip, and a force of nature. The Iraq war is a major long term reason for high oil and gas prices, and is force of the Bush administration.
So the fact that U.S refineries don't have enough capacity to supply the demands of the domestic market has nothing to do with it? You mean if we withdrew all our troops tomorrow the capacity problem would go away?
I find it ironic that people claim we went to war because of oil and then blame oil prices on us going to war. If we went to war for oil, wouldn't that lower the price?
Who is responsible for this. Can you say reformulated gas. Some of the old refineries could not make it and had to be shut down. So take your pick Bill Clinton who made it law or the tree huggers who pushed for it. You can also thank them for over 20yrs with out a new refinery.
Dennis
And did I hear it takes upwards of 6 years to get a permit for a new refinery? No wonder no one wants to build one. We need to invest in domestic energy. That means drilling in the ANWR and getting new, modern refineries online in a timely fashion.
Yep, not to mention all the NIMBYs who want gas but think refineries should be in someone else's city/county/state.
Amen!
Bush waged war to RAISE the price of oil, and thus increase the profits for all of his oil buddies. Katrina was just an unexpected windfall for them.
6 years for a refinery permit is nothing. How long did it take the last nuke power plant to go from applying for a permit to online power generation? And how many have been built in the last 3 decades or so?
Reagan: Well....there you go again..... being logical and all.... next thing you'll want to know is "what came first the oil or the well" uh... I mean the chicken or the egg.... no, I mean Exxon or Shell.... no, I mean...
The problem is that people always want it both ways. Fact is, oil was NOT the only reason for the war. The hurricane is NOT the only reason the prices are high. The prices are high because people are greedy and wasteful and the government holds no one accountable, mainly because they are in it up to the hilt. And that's ALL of them, from Teddy to Codolesa.
Randy
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