Anyone find proof yet of BATFE van incident?

What video Jerry? So far you are 100% wrong on this.

would seem kinda dumb to test $100s of motors and rockets and have no video documetation of it.

if there was a video, could we force them to provide it to us thru freedom of information act?

We did _what_?

-dave w

"National security" trumps FOIA. Even with FOIA results you often get highly "redacted" documents. Most of it blacked out to "protect sources".

This is your government.

Trust them blindly. You have NO choice.

Jerry

You know, that cult that keeps saying they have all these rocks and pictures from 'the moon'.

Joel. phx

Dumb? A government test that we already know what the truth will show?

The video gear was in the van.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Isn't that the cult headed by Alice Kramden?

Object lession in why you shouldn't keep your "non-Explosive" stuff in your Magazine, I guess...

-dave w

Um, no. But I can see that anything that I say would be pointless unless I could hand you a part of the burned van, in which case you would still deny it existed.

Like I already said, when several people I trust implicitly inform me of it, several weeks before it was public knowledge, I don't question their integrity.

Maybe you are hearing it third hand, but I did not.

Mike Fisher

There's a burned out van,.... down by the river,...

Joel. phx

I bet they'll say the camera's burned up in the van ;)

- iz

Bang, Zoom!

If both you and Mike went to the same source, naturally you'll get the same story.

Now... if you both got the same story from DIFFERENT sources, that would be more credible. ;-)

I thought the leader was D.D. Harriman... :-)

And it would be even dumber to release an embarassing video to the press...

Two words - "National Security"

(They seem to be getting a lot of use lately...)

for the $1000s they are paying ASA, I woudl assume multiple cameras, in a dedicated media van.....

or am I the onyl one who thinks that would be the best way to document a time sensitive test like this?

I'll beleive it when I hear them beep when exposed to moonlight.

Fair enough. I went to CNN and Fox News website and did a search on "ATF". No reports of the ATF making a video as reported here in R.M.R. I was able to find lots of articles about Iraq, including video. As a matter of fact, I did a google search on Iraq and got lots of hits (with video). Nothing on ATF video (outside of the same posts seen on R.M.R.).

So in a way, I did "witness" action in Iraq (through the first hand reports and video). The best we have on the ATF "incident" is third hand reports (I have a friend who knows someone).

Just for fun I did a search on "Roswell Autopsy". LOTS of hits. The video of THAT is available on Amazon.com. Hmmmmm.

I still have no proof either way. Since I don't know or trust any of the people who assert the video DOES exist, I have nothing to convince me. Seeing it on two major news wires would convince me. Heck, even one might do it.

As I replied before, do you also find hits for the secret laser tests conducted at Edwards AFB, CA the week before Christmas?

Jerry