If you're not paranoid yet...

Aug 13, 2003 143 Replies

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San Francisco - The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) today criticized the sentencing on August 4 of political activist Sherman Austin to one year in jail for hosting a website describing bomb-making and for linking from his RaiseTheFist.com website to that website.



U.S. District Judge Stephen Wilson sentenced Austin to triple the sentence term the prosecutor had recommended under a binding plea bargain agreement, along with three years of probation. He faces strict restrictions and monitoring of his use of computers, a $2,000 fine for restitution, and a prohibition from associating with any person or group that "espouses violence or physical force as means of intimidation, or achieving economic, social, or political change."



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Although information on how to make bombs is commonly available in libraries, universities, and on the Internet, the U.S. Justice Department charged Austin under a law sponsored by Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) and passed by Congress that prohibits "distribution of information relating to explosives, destructive devices, and weapons of mass destruction with the intent that such information be used in furtherance of a federal crime of violence." A charge related to possession of the components of a Molotov cocktail was dropped as part of the plea bargain agreement.



Grrrrrrrr the first thing I will add to my anti current government site when I make it is HOW TO MAKE BOMBS.

Just to piss them the F$%K off. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr rrrrr

whoa I'm paranoid........

is this law SEA ? or Patriots Act ?

shockie B)

under a law sponsored by Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)

"Chris Taylor Jr" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@newshost02.voicenet.com:

And also get you a jail term...

You have been warned.

len.

Now THAT'S a good idea.

Just what the rocketry hobbyist should be doing to show those lousy Feds that we're not all a bunch of........oh wait............never mind...........

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"distribution of information

Be sure to STATE that they are not to be used for crimes of violence but for entertainment and education about explosives and fireworks.

Leonard Fehskens wrote in news:Xns93D69C22F35EDlenfehskenshpcom@16.105.248.153:

Possession of molotov cocktail components...

- a glass bottle

- a rag

- gasoline

Sounds like every adult in the country will soon be a convicted felon.

espeically southern white males..... shockie B(

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Now wait a minute there Shockie, I gots me some rags, an I gots me some gas, er gasoline that is, in the trucks, and I gots me some glass bottles but ain't none empty. Look see here, I gots one full a acetone, one full a turpentine, one full a isopropanol, an one full a moonshine... See, I is clean!!! No bottles fulla that thar nasty gas, er gasoline stuff. An none empty to tempt me ;*) You feel any safer now?

Patrick

I do not care. I fight and resist anyone till I am unconscious or dead.

I can only tolerate so much of this tramplig of our constitution.

IT IS the first thing I will put on my website.

I will deal with the consequences if and when they occur.

kaplow snipped-for-privacy@encompasserve.org.TRABoD (Bob Kaplow) wrote in news:nlIM1ZN$ snipped-for-privacy@eisner.encompasserve.org:

As far as I know, US law covers US citizens even when they're not in the US, and the location of the computer that serves the website, as far as US law enforcement is concerned, is irrelevant. Don't take that to mean that I agree with it. My guess is that the case will eventually lose on constitutional grounds, after spending the poor guy's life savings, etc.

So you have the sites hosted by Aussies. Or Canadians. Or Chinese. Or other non US citizens.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

They did? I would like to know in DETAIL how they did that.

Jerry

You'd have to ask him. The old link to the page was

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but all that is there now is the message "The people in charge have requested this web site be removed. 2/6/2003

--ghg"

Do an internet search for "George Goble barbecue". A related link is at

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the Dave Barry article about it is at
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even won an IgNobel award for this!

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Len, You must be mistaken about Feinstein's involvement in this law. After all, she is a Liberal and, according to the Liberals on RMR, it is the Liberals that are protecting our liberties while the bad Republicans are trying to take them away. >;-)

Mark Simpson NAR 71503 Level II God Bless our peacekeepers

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Thanks for all that.

The only difference between liberals and conservatives is which rights they wish to take away first. Given enough time, the agendas would eventually converge.

I thought you were a conservative?

I just had a conservative explain to me that our military is nothing but traitors. They've refused to find the Iraqi WMD and they keep dying. Both of these things are highly embarrassing to our President, which the military should have avoided.

There's just as many loons on the right as on the left.

Zooty

snipped-for-privacy@home.com (Mark Simpson) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com:

[mandatory liberal-baiting deleted] I didn't write the article...

len.

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