No TRA Insurance

From: Robert Utley [mailto: snipped-for-privacy@verdespamizon.net] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 3:23 PM To: Bill Schworer; George Sechrist; Lester Sherman; Rumano Solano; Ross Sorci; Joe Sorrentino; Richard Stafford; Philip Stein; Jeff Taylor; Steve Thatcher; Thomas Thompson; George Tiger; Norwood Truitt; Bob Utley; Fred Wallace; Nelson Wallace; Fred Walls; David Weber; Brian Wheeler; James Williams Subject: Fwd: Battle Park canceled

This does not effect MDRA launches in any way shape or form........ We can and will still fly, we have our own insurance.......... thank god.

Bob Utley

Since you asked.

Jerry can't remember!

Soforstyoublameitonmethanon weather.

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Either it is caused by TRA premature announcement or Battle Park people being quick to react. I tend to not blame launch hosts when given a preference. It takes something pretty radical for a launch host to get my attention like removing spectators for watching or trying or even succeeding to shut down an unaffiliated launch a mile or more from their site.

I just hope battle park goes on as scheduled!

They have important Jerry-motors to fly!

Jerry

You cannot read english :)

They have not reinstated the launch? I'll find out for you. If they don't... someone should fire the launch director.

I'll bet the launch happens. And Jerry Irvine remains on the low road. I knew you wouldn't do anything honorable in this regard.

Make up your mind. You're worse than you claim Jerry is.

Phil Ste>On 01 Jan 2004 21:41:58 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@aol.com (RayDunakin) wrote: >

Phil Stein

from insurance FAQ at

Yes. One of our members, along with a landowner, was named in a lawsuit involving a minor launching a model rocket at a launch event the member was sponsoring. The member in question had not obtained an insurance certificate for the landowner. The claim is currently pending. This is a good example of using extreme caution when assisting in launches involving non Tripoli members. Depending on the outcome of the claim, our member is out at least $2,500."

keep in mind that the insurance does not cover everything

" 6. If I rent a vehicle and I damage it in a rocketry related activity, will Tripoli?s insurance policy cover it?

No. Since you rented the vehicle, you are the responsible party for it. Tripoli?s insurance coverage does not provide insurance coverage for a member?s property, and would consider a vehicle rented by a member as such."

also keep in mind that incidents may have occurred that did not meet the $2,500 deductible, and so would not necessarily have been reported

"10. What do I do in the event of a potential loss?

IF AN ACCIDENT OCCURS INVOLVING ANY PERSONAL INJURY OR PROPERTY DAMAGE THAT WILL POSSIBLY EXCEED THE $2,500 DEDUCTIBLE, COMPLETE THE ACCIDENT REPORT FORM AND SEND IT TO THE TRIPOLI INSURANCE OFFICE IMMEDIATELY!"

- iz

tater schuld wrote:

Are you at liberty to say what happened to trigger a lawsuit in the first place? Did a rocket somehow cause damage or injury?

Brian Elfert

I don't have any more information in this other than what is on the website as quoted

sorry :(

- iz

Brian Elfert wrote:

So what exactly is your criterion for "low road" vs. "honorable" action here? I'm confused.

-dave w

I think you're going to remain confused. I've got you on the nose-so-far-up-Jerrys-ass-he-can't-breathe list.

how rude

but if you can contribute some substance to the group, you may stay out of the killfile yet

let's wait and see

- iz

Just for the record he stays very neutral. He askes pointed questions from all sides. He has hung my ass on astring more than once. So you shold consider him an ally theoretically, since that is your SINGULAR goal.

Jerry