Ok, so U.S. Rockets [NEVER] existed? I am confused!

Just to be clear, I wasn't condoning or supporting the posts you referred to. I was simply trying to point out that when someone has a record like Jerry's, it harms their own family as well as their victims.

As for "Jerry did it too", that's not quite an accurate depiction of my comments either. For the most part, the people Jerry has slandered did nothing more than stand up to Jerry or get in the way of what he wants. They didn't rip anyone off, they didn't commit fraud, they didn't lie or slander anyone.

FYI, I don't think Sue is in the hobby anymore. The Vaughn brothers are out of the rocketry business and may also be out of the hobby as well.

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raydunakin
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Not saying that at all. If one believes that one has a case against someone else and needs to warn folks, invite them off list to hear you out. Keep it private. That's the dignified and civil way to do things.

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Reece Talley

OK Ray, I stand corrected. I was perhaps more passionate than required and misread the tone of your reply. I think Sue is out too. I did hear from Mike Vaughn a year or so ago but nothing since. I miss them. Bob Fortune too and Peter. They always had interesting stuff to add. And of course, you are correct about some of Jerry's rantings. I would that we all, myself included, stayed away from mean-spirited sniping and basically said either kind things or nothing at all. I think the hobby would be far more attractive to new comers and parents.

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Reece Talley

I agree. On the other hand, when someone posts misinformation there is a need to counter it with fact, and sometimes that means delving into issues of credibility and why the poster in question lacks it.

=F9

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raydunakin

Ok ok I stan corrected on the header issue ... still Jerry is a thief ... any disputing that? Jerry and Iz are the same person ... any dispute on that or the mosaic?

Cheers :)

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lunarlos

Ok ok I stand corrected on the header issue ... still Jerry is a thief ... any disputing that? Jerry and Iz are the same person ... any dispute on that or the mosaic?

Cheers :)

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lunarlos

Nope, no question that Iz and the nameless one are different people. No question either that the nameless one screwed people in the past. No question that every review of his service /lately/ comes back good to excellent. Finally, no question that the "mosaic" was one of the silliest things I've seen in six years of mostly lurking on RMR.

The only questions I have are why are you running around sniffing the nameless one's hiney and how many Belushi Cocktails it takes to get you wound up for another day's posting.

Since neither of the answers matter, I'll just k/f the thread and go back to lurking with apologies for the interruption to the people who post all the great rocket information I read here and hope to (someday) put into more use.

TK

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TDKozan

Don't let all that et in the way of an opportunity to lecture people.

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Phil Stein

I know people that say they've met Iz and he isn't Jerry.

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Phil Stein

Phil,

Interesting ... does anyone have a photo of Iz and where does he fly? Maybe I could visit with him at a launch?

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lunarlos

TK,

Bye bye. r.m.r has been stupid and useless for years now. If you want REAL rocket information, for low - amateur rocketry, goto

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Otherwise, just sit back and watch rec.us.rockets, aka rec.models.rockets . Funny how on MODERATED site and forums, Jerry (nameless one .. God that sounds STUPID), doesn't have the soap box as he does here.

This group has been ruined by him many years ago ... many! So if he, Jerry, wants to throw fast balls, then I will hit them out of the park!

Like I said, you want REAL rocket information without the crap ... goto rocketryforum.com ... NICE thing about that place is that there is NO Jerry Irvine to be found ... its a very CLEAN site!

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lunarlos

Phil,

If Iz realy is Iz (a real person and not one of Jerry's meme personas) then Iz is a fool. I just want to know when this MOZAIC thing is supposed to be revealed? Is that the same year, 2012, when the Mayan calendar ends and the world is supposed to also end?

I think 2012 is the year when U.S. Rocket motors will finally be certified ... same year as hell freezing over also IIRC!

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lunarlos

Izzie doesn't fly rockets. His hobby is concocting and/or promoting conspiracy theories. There are reports that his kids have flown modrocs a time or two.

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raydunakin

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shreadvector

Actually, Jerry's been pretty quiet on rmr lately, and there wasn't much talk about him until you brought the subject up again.

=AB

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raydunakin

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EXACTLY!

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Dave Grayvis

Yeah and since they actually fly rockets they are not required to wear their father's special tin foil hat :)

Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75

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tdstr

I think You mean *aluminum* foil hats.

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Dave Grayvis

You are right! And it's been tested;

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Ted Novak TRA#5512 IEAS#75

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tdstr

It's sad really, the people who need them the most, refuse to eve consider trying them.

Sad.

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Dave Grayvis

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