[OT POL] Does this bother anyone else?

Found this on Google News:
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With the inane rules and regs which rocketry has been subject to, I
thought this somewhat apropos.
What, exactly, are they trying to protect from terrorism? The
government's ability to suspend any Right whatsoever?
Are there precedents for this? I am not familiar with, say, delayed
elections during WWII.
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Gary
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"fascism will come to america under the guise of democracy" Gary, as far as I am aware, this is indeed unprecedented.... They even had an election right smack in the middle of the Civil War if I remember my history correctly...
shockie B)
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shockwaveriderz
BTSOOM. What could the terrorists do to disrupt the election worse than last time?
Or are they trying to label Florida a terrorist group :-)
Well, Pearl Harbor would have been 13 months after the election
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Bob Kaplow
that way we would start calling President Bush.....King Bush
The Sky is Falling, The Sky is Falling
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Jim Chambers
I've seen a lot of versions of this quote, with attributions to Will Rogers and Huey Long. Any one got a good reference for the original?
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Bob Kaplow
May be further OT but my parrot won't even sh*t on the NY Daily News. That paper sucks so bad, last week they claimed they had interviews with Elvis, Jim Morrison and Janis Joplin.
That reminds me of an old joke....
If Mama Cass shared half her ham sandwich with Karen Carpenter, they both might still be alive today. :-)>
P.S. I KNOW SHE DIDN'T CHOKE ON A HAM SANDWICH!!! GIVE ME A BREAK!!! (Precursory response to the anal retentive know-it-alls and those with snopes.com in their "Favorites")
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Gene
You were there huh? What did you put in her mouth? There's only one thing I can think of & from the rumors I've heard, no one is gonna choke on it. 8-)
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Phil Stein
More likely that Bin Laden is laughing his a$$ off, at you.
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Alex Mericas
You know, I can understand taking precautions and trying to mitigate disruptions and panic. I can understand extra security at transportation centers and ball games and things like that. I can understand concern and even paranoia.
But, at some point, there are lines that cannot be crossed. Its the lines that make America what it is, or, what it should be. When we cross those kind of lines, we lose more than we gain.
Open elections. I mean, to me, they are a defining characteristic of the American Republic. A Right to vote. Lots and lots of people have died to gain and protect a Right like that. It shocks me that Homeland Security (apparently) would even consider "delaying" an election. It is kowtowing to the terrorists, for one thing. It is, IMHO, an insult to the principles and ideals upon which this nation was founded, for another.
If we are not willing to vote, to carry an election to completion under a threat, or even an attack, what is left that is more important or American that we WOULD be willing to carry on with in the same circumstances? What other parts of the Constitution and our way of life are relative to the whims and threats of those who may wish us harm?
No, I would not be thinking of how to delay an election. I would be doing my best to ensure that it goes off successfully.
No matter what.
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Gary
I agree.
I think (and hope) that the concern is, if there's a major attack such as what happened on 9/11, people in that city or cities would be unable to get to the polls. NYC was pretty much chaos, with no public transportation, people searching for loved ones, large areas closed off, etc. If the election went forward and those folks didn't get to vote, they'd probably not be very happy about it, and you can bet your bottom dollar that whichever side lost the elections would raise a stink.
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RayDunakin
Yeah, really... why aren't they talking about, like, contingency plans to set up polling places under emergency circumstances, instead of "delaying" the election??
-dave w
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David Weinshenker
plans to
Perhaps "they" are. Would you want to tell your enemies about your contingency plans? Hey guys, if you try to disrupt our elections on November 2 we have a secret plan to move our elections to ..... Oh yea, that makes sense. And realistically, the Federal Government has no business setting up polling places. That's a State issue.
It's so nice to have an executive branch that is at least willing to explore emergency situations instead of worrying which intern is on duty today. I'm sure our enemies would like to disrupt any chance of Bush being re-elected. John/John would continue the Carter/Clinton policy of appeasement. You will see embassies captured and/or bombed, hostages taken, burned out helicopters with the pilots dragged through the streets. They would be given at least 4 years to rebuild.
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Alex Mericas
So you think (a) we would see more attacks by "the terrorists" under a Democratic presidency than under a second Bush term, but that (b) an attack near the election would nevertheless tend to provoke people to vote against Bush?
Hmmm... if people generally believed (a) to be true, then (b) isn't too credible.
Or is your position that a vote against Bush is in fact a vote "for The Terrorists" but most of the population does not believe that it is, and therefore we should be denied the vote in a time of crisis lest we, based on that lack of belief, vote "wrong"??
-dave w
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David Weinshenker
I think the terrorists hate and fear Bush. Bush has eliminate two countries that supported enemies of the U.S. and has convinced Libya that continuing against us is a quick way to loose your position of power. Democrat Presidents (Carter and Clinton) were soft on terrorists and countries that supported them and the result was a number of attacks on us (including the first Trade Center bombing). They were successful in influencing the elections in Spain and probably feel they can influence them here. I personally feel that if a Democrat is elected President there will be a gradual increase in major events against the U.S. both at home and abroad.
I never said we should change the date or place of the Federal Election. Luckily Texas has a very convenient early voting policy that would allow me to vote before November 2.
I believe many Americans, like the Spaniards, are easily influenced by fear and images selected to be shown by media. I think any attempt to influence the election through terror will have a very strong reaction. I'm not sure what that reaction would be however. In the past the public has strongly supported the President (regardless of party) immediately following a national crisis. If that continues, a terrorist attack would backfire (assuming I'm correct and hate Bush).
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