Re: 20mm ammo can as a type IV magazine?

Dec 28, 2003 96 Replies

They also have cardboard shoe boxes that meet the requirements for APCP when intended to be used in PADs.

My point entirely.

Is 6' underground secure? :O

Com'on they're just doing their job, for NATIONAL security,....

Joel. phx

2 hooded locks will be a requirement if and when NPRM 968 is effective, My understanding is that BATFE is requiring all new applicants to have storage that meet these requirements in anticipation of NPRM 968 being effective.

reference:

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as previously posted,

from Blaster's Tool and Supply Company at

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Thank you. I couldn't find the reference. Joel.phx

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If those links didn't work for anybody else:

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Page 8 (4413) or search on "55.208, 55.210, and 55.211"

Joel. phx Thanks again for the cite.

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Ismaeel Abdur-Rasheed wrote in news:mjGHb.59627$ snipped-for-privacy@twister.nyc.rr.com:

Interesting that they think it's ok to enforce rules that aren't even rules yet. I guess that's at least a little better than enforcing rules that are simply made up on the spot.

I wonder what this country would be like if police were allowed to make their own rules, then enforce them?

Ismaeel Abdur-Rasheed wrote in news:3mGHb.59656$ snipped-for-privacy@twister.nyc.rr.com:

Isn't it ironic that most rocketeer's magazines will cost significantly more than what's inside them?

Isn't it moronic that the LOCK will cost more than a can of BP which wouldn't have to be stored if you bought a $100 pistol!!

Joel. phx

Yes, especially when they're not delivered on time.

Oops, wrong magazine--sorry...

David Erbas-White

It would be ironic if it were required by law. But it is not.

27 CFR 555.141-a-8

You are presently enjoying the experience of observing it. So what do you think?

Jerry

Yep. This is accurate, and NPRM 968 does not change this.

I agree it is absurd. Hey, the BATFE wants us to put Jerry's motors that have been classified as unregulated in a magazine! less hazardous than a flammable solid!!!

sans clue

- iz

Instead of epoxy paint, consider using that spray coating made for the pick-up truck beds. A friend in Maryland used that after the BATFE guy wasn't happy with his storage box originally. -- Richard "hoping fot decent weather for a launch next weekend" Hickok

Matt, It's best to ask your agent what they will aprove before buying or making anything..keep the following quote in mind when dealing with the ATF..

"And of course always remember: What your ATF inspector says is true, nothing else matters. Not the Orange Book, not physics, not logic, and not the law."

Tony Alcocer

A deja search with 101.3 and an author = 'tony alcocer' uncovers an interesting odyssey!

thanks, the links I provided earlier must be query results (temporary)

I uploaded the PDF file to ambr

- iz

Joel Corwith wrote:

or enforce rules that ignore laws on the books, like APCP not meeting the definition of explosives set by congress

from 18USC40.841(d) at

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"Except for the purposes of subsections (d), (e), (f), (g), (h), (i), and (j) of section 844 of this title, ''explosives'' means any chemical compound mixture, or device, the primary or common purpose of which is to function by explosion; the term includes, but is not limited to, dynamite and other high explosives, black powder, pellet powder, initiating explosives, detonators, safety fuses, squibs, detonating cord, igniter cord, and igniters."

(the excepted subsections relate to the commission of criminal acts)

- iz

I give you something more moronic

if you possess an antique or replica of an antique firearm or cannon you can store 50 lbs of BP in your kitchen cabinet right above your microwave, toaster oven and coffee maker

but if you intend to use 1 gram of that BP for use in a ejection charge for rocket recovery you will need to have the LEUP, the qualifying storage meeting the distance requirements, and store that 1 gram of BP in your magazine after completing the required log entry and while completing required periodic inventories

the other 22,678+ grams can stay in your kitchen cabinet with no LEUP, storage, distance, logging or inventory requirements

"But wait! That's not all!"

the DoJ/BATFE will send their law enforcement agents around from time to time to make sure your 1 gram is being properly stored and logged. Oh, and BTW, violations of your 1 gram BP storage requirement is a felony.

completely insane!

- iz

Joel Corwith wrote:

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