Re: NAR Board of Trustees

is to FAS symptoms? We have an entire generation of

much acid,mescaline,peyote,etc ,prescription drugs,

some of us at least).....

Besides the fact that the APA actually defined a condition called ADD/ADHD, there are a couple of statistical correlations, but no direct correlation yet (that I'm aware of).

Drug use rates (point for shockie!), low birth weights, increased fatty acid levels in mothers, and increased sugar comsumption in toddlers have been mentioned in the literature. A lot of correlations seem to involve the diet of either the parents or infants. I've also seen the usual suspects blamed; pollutants (nature-based causes) and single parent families (nurture-based causes).

It might be interesting to note that the percentage of spec ed students as a whole has not increased nearly as much as the percentage of spec ed students diagnosed with ADHD. There has been more of a shift from other disorders into ADHD than there has been an increase in primary ADHD cases themselves.

kidz up.......

ADD/ADHD is to FAS symptoms? We have an entire generation of

how much acid,mescaline,peyote,etc ,prescription drugs,

some of us at least).....

ONLY problem or

I really don't know. I'm only familiar with ADHD in the context of teaching techniques here in Colorado.

One parenting trick I found is to remind the kids that when I get old and cranky, I'm going to come live with the one that gave me the most trouble growing up.

Ted

You are right but the timing was such that a number of people cancelled theier plans to attend because it was so close to the launch date. That's where the problem was - no consideration for the timing of events that were happening.

Phil

On Sat, 12 Jul 2003 18:17:02 -0400, Mark Simpson

Phil Stein

Gary, It's perfectly understandable that you wouldn't know what I was talking about initially because you haven't experienced it in your professional life. You work in a school district that, I'm assuming here, probably isn't dominated (read controlled) by the NEA. Here in MI, the heart of the NEA, I could tell you verifiable stories that would make your head swim. For a good starting point, I'd suggest that you get a hold of two articles about the NEA that were published in Forbes several years back. To give you a tone of the piece, one was called " The NEA: National Extortion Association". Needless-to-say, it wasn't very flattering to the union. ;-)

Keep fighting for the kids; teaching SHOULD be a noble profession.

Mark Simpson NAR 71503 Level II God Bless our peacekeepers

"Chris Taylor Jr" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@newshost02.voicenet.com:

There may be no such thing in "your book< but there are such things in reality. We don't know the exact details yet, but it's clear that many sociopaths and psychopaths are genetically predisposed to their lack of concern for other people. Some overcome their deficits, too many do not.

len.

But what about you, Mark? Single swats or multiples?

No single swats for us. My brothers and I got plenty of spankings and, I dare say, probable earned more than we actually got. We wuz hooligans, I tell you, just absolute young tear abouts.

;-)

Some things never change.

Well, the NEA is certainly involved and I DON'T EVEN want to get into unions.

As I mentioned, my district has had a dedicated spec ed program in place

for many years and, except for budget issues, we are left pretty much alone.

The regular schools are fairly supportive of us because we offer a place for them to send the real "problem" kids to, so we are spared much of the day-to-day NEA politics. Our district, and, I believe, a district in Alabama, may be the only two with such programs as a regular part of the public school system.

With very few exceptions, the kids we get DESERVE a program like this. Its sorta ironic that the simple "troublemaker" students will rant all day long about how its not their fault. The kids with real LD/ED will not, but in their case, it isn't.

Good luck on your move.

Hey! I resemble that remark.

;-)

Here is a story. A long, long time ago in a city quite far away, my mother had planted tulips along our driveway (which was quite long). My brothers and I thought it would be great fun to take my dad's golf clubs and "play golf" with the tulips.

I'll never do that again...

There once was a prevailing belief that criminals possessed "the XYY chromosome", but that was debunked years ago. Personally, I believe in the "bad seed". >;-)

Mark Simpson NAR 71503 Level II God Bless our peacekeepers

John, I can understand your difficulty in following Chris' train of thought, but I would have expected that you'd be able to handle mine. ;-)

Here's what Chris wrote: Cigarettes are hamful and LETHAL to the smoker. Cigarettes are Harmful to NON smokers (I accept this as fact till shown otherwise unequivacably) Cigarettes as far as I am concerned should be outright illegal. period."

Chris was advocating making smoking illegal for everyone. Now, tell me again how my example doesn't fit Chris' illogical position? Logically, if you believe in Nanny-government, tropical oils in popcorn should be outlawed too. ;-)

Mark Simpson NAR 71503 Level II God Bless our peacekeepers

Let's just say that when I was young, my parents weren't as benevolent as my wife and I are. ;-)

Mark Simpson NAR 71503 Level II God Bless our peacekeepers

That's what you get for emulating Bill Murray in Caddyshack. Whack! "Oh, he got a hold of that one". ;-)

Mark Simpson NAR 71503 Level II God Bless our peacekeepers

How about the Demon Seed, good computer gone bad.

Alan

And our warriors too.

is to FAS symptoms? We have an entire generation of

much acid,mescaline,peyote,etc ,prescription drugs,

some of us at least).....

ADD/ADHD has been around for a LONG time. The problem is until the current generation, it was never diagnosed as an actual disorder. Kids were just labeled "disruptive troublemakers". That's what I was for a significant part of my youth. Most of school was boring, and my mind was always off elsewhere. Probably on rockets.

And my parents certainly never touched drugs or abused alcohol. Nor did friends of ours who have an ADD kid.

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

Hmmm, my daughter is really in trouble now. She's an olny child...

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!