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Cliff Sojourner wrote in news:B_zub.182640 $9E1.958328@attbi_s52:

An interesting exercise is to watch the TV news (especially the "on the scene" local news) and ask yourself whether the images you're watching actually convey any additional information or if they're just tenuously related visual wallpaper.

len.

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Leonard Fehskens
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I miss older H-P calculators; they were built like tools, not throw-away electronics. They don't seem to have a very big selection anymore.

The last two universities I attended and the high school I worked at all required specific TI models in the curriculum.

One of the biggest advantages of an RPN H-P at work; no one ever "borrows" them off your desk. I've had people bring em back and ask where the "equals" key is.

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Gary

:)

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Jerry Irvine

I always say, "the equals is built in, just like the universe". nobody ever comes back after that.

one of the reasons I married my wife was she had an HP 33 and knew how to use it. we still have it, in a box, somewhere up in the rafters.

unfortunately my HP 41 was stolen from my apartment in college. the HP

28 was an OK replacement but eventually fell overboard off the sailboat. the HP 48 is still working just fine thanks!
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Cliff Sojourner

That's just plain weird!

-dave w

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David Weinshenker

I have heard that from a lot of sources so it must be very common these days.

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Jerry Irvine

It is. HP has pretty much gotten out of the calculator business, and TI has got back into it in a big way, and provides the support necessary for math instructors (since my wife is a college math professor, I find these things out...).

And as someone who used to make my living off of HP calculators, I'm not happy about the change either... (they call it progress, I guess)

David Erbas-White

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David Erbas-White

Both university course catalogs listed TI-83 as the "recommended" model. You didn't HAVE to have an 83, if you didn't mind translating the programs. The textbook examples use TI-83 keystroke/programming code.

The high school courses used the TI-34 because of the fractions facility (they can display and work with fractions, ie, 3 1/2 instead of 3.5000).

I have nothing against TI calcs, mind you. I have a TI-86 and a TI-83. Most curricula standards that address calculators in the classroom specify an AOS or CAS system in order to support the rest of the math curricula; algebraic operator precedence, etc.

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Gary

I have a son that's a math teacher at a local high school, it's the same for him.

I was a sales clerk during high school in 1972, when the first TI calc came out. It had 4 functions, was powered by a 9 volt that lasted about 3 hours and it cost $135.99+ tax. I picked up a basic 6 function TI about 3 months ago, that is SOLAR powered for less than $5.00! Man how things have changed.

Randy

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Randy

Now that HP is out of the calculator business and most calculators are eiter a Palm or Linux or Winblows app, someone needs to make an HP emulator for these environments. Or maybe there is, in which case I'm sure some one will point us to the proper URL...

Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!

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Bob Kaplow

There are many - Google is your friend.

Additionally, the "HP out of calculator business" may not be entirely true. After the crappy TI-clone models (algebraic with the same sort of junk keys and slap-dash workmanship as the cheapies from other companies) seem to have gone over like lead balloons, they seem to have gotten the message. They just recently introduced a new RPN machine with proper keys, and according to my sources, there will be another new RPN calculator (HP32SII replacement/redux) in the very near future. So all is not lost for those who want a quality product.

Brett

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Brett Buck

Bob: start here:

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It won't be the same again. They 'may' have something minor on the horizon, but the calculator division was completely gutted and destroyed several years ago.

As of about 3-4 years ago, the entire Calculator division (which used to be a pretty large part of their Corvallis operation) was reduced to one guy in Australia (I'm not being facetious, this is fact). I DON'T see that HP is remotely headed back to their 'glory days'.

David Erbas-White

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David Erbas-White

Plenty.

Do a search at shareware.com

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Jerry Irvine

Well, maybe. I'm pretty well set for quality machines - 3 HP48G/G+'s, 2 32SIIs, and an 11c.

I might also add, where I work, TI/Casios are the ones that people never borrow. They always come back and ask were the "enter" key is.

Brett

Brett

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Brett Buck

For the GNU/Linux group;

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Gary

I does not bother me at all if HP stays in a very small niche market. I just find confort in knowing that I get RPN relacement calculator if my HP 41CX ever gets lost or stolen, or in the unlikely event that it stops working.

Alan

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Alan Jones

I received an email yesterday saying that HP is back in the calculator buisness and has a new RRN model out.

Alan

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Alan Jones

HP calculators are like Apple computers. Vastly superior product quality and consumer interface, vastly superior OS, higher prices and far better product longevity.

And a flock of followers :)

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Jerry Irvine

I had some concern over replacability, that's why I stocked up. I lost, somehow, my 32sII earlier this year. I figured, oh, no big deal, I'll just go get another one. Head over to Fry's - hey that HP looks just like a Casio - and why does it have big "=" key? Then a little research, and the light dawns - I better go grab up a few before they go away. Now, I'm pretty much set, and HP32SIIs are going for $350 on EBay.

Brett

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Brett Buck

The "On/Off" button usually dies first. I've seen several that went that way.

Brad Hitch

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Brad Hitch

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