[TRA motor certs] USR

Because Fred has a former or existing agency relationship and "duty of care". That's all. Really.

Fred wrote: Are you suggesting that if any other manufacturer

So that -is- the defining criterion.

Jerry

I agree with your assessment Ray, but I still believe Frank and Paul got a free pass and that was a error in judgment on the part of the TRA BOD, which they did correct in the end.

Fred

put this speculation in the FAQ

- iz

At who's expense?

No, but it does appear that they were merely "given a bunch of slack" for a while, on the very same "paperwork"-type issues that have generally been cited as the grounds for turning Jerry down.

I think that may be more what Fred is referring to here.

-dave w

AFAIK the only reason that Tripoli was involved at all is because it is a 501c3 in existence long enough to legally conduct a raffle. Also to prevent any tax liabilities.

Pat G gave his word on the money being a pass-through and I trust that he would make damn sure that happened.

- iz

isn't that libelous?

- iz

Hmmm, I'm curious David. Are you aware of any requirements related to control of a 501(c)3, specifically is there any condition regarding control of the corporation that must be maintained in order to maintain

- iz

AH HA!!! there it is!!!

PROOF that Ray doesn't understand what he reads!

PLEASE put this in the FAQ!

- iz

I agree, both that it was in error and that the error was corrected.

Yes.

I have no doubt of that. Like I said, if you keep biting the hand that feeds you, eventually you'll get smacked. And not likely to be fed anymore, either.

Again, I'm sure there is animosity on both sides -- how could there not be? And maybe there are some elements of a power struggle. Frankly, I don't care.

yes Christopher, obviously

I meant why did Fred decide to resurrect this now in particular. I found it conspicuous

but thank for for revealing the cynicism that keeps you from making a difference. I didn't know where you stood with that before you spoke up.

- iz

too soon to say in a public venue, its a special project I'm doing

- iz

"can't" ship them.

I thought I heard they could be shipped USPS now

- iz

with an appendix with copies of signed ocumentation, many notarized

- iz

don't they have to at least like you? :(

- iz

thats it ? that's *all* ?

"it was in error and that the error was corrected" ?

"how conVEENnient, well who do you suppose was behind that error, hmmmm? .... the DEVIL!!??" - Church Lady

- iz