Reply to Fred on USR/DOT thread

Wonder why old Phiip D did not send his post directly to me?? Interesting, he is not in my kill file(:-)

Fred

Jerry Irv> I started an entire thread so it is clear I am posting this for someone

This whole self perpetuating logic and self fulfilling prophecy is someting Rogers specializes in ever since he received misdirection training in connection with his security clearances for work on failed NASA/AF airbreather programs.

Somewhere I have written down all the major principals he practiced on me. I took the liberty of documenting most of it in "Tripoli Politics Issues #1 - #4".

Surprise!?

I see you get it. Now what?

I do NOT wonder why you failed or refused to reply to ANY of his questions with ANY substance.

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reprint in full for clarity:

I started an entire thread so it is clear I am posting this for someone else. You know how rmr can be :)

Philip D wrote in email to be posted to rmr:

Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:53:21 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Philip D To: snipped-for-privacy@gte.net Subject: usenet post

Jerry,

My news server (google) is dead. Post this reply to fred for me please.

Philip

Based on your response you either do not understand why it is a problem to conduct itself this way, or you do not care. Please clarify so I know where you stand in the future.

It is TRA/NAR business only because they choose to make it their business. And they worked damn hard to make it their business. Furthermore, it remains their business only because they have decided that it needs to be their business. Your logic that they bear no responsibility is like suggesting that a mugger must attack their victim because the victim chronically insists on having valuables worth stealing...

Fred, your statements are transparent and self serving horse's s*it. Per NAR/TRA: "In order to qualify to PURCHASE and USE engines of power classes from H to I [J-O], you must obtain a Level 1 [2,3] certification" Since you cannot certify on unapproved motors, cannot certify without a membership, cannot be a member without paying dues, everyone who wishes to legally purchase motors has a vested interest in TRA/NAR certification.

Like I said before, both groups worked very hard to make sure there existence and power base was mandated in the law and that even non-members/supporters would have to abide by their rules or pound sand. And in the case of TRA, if you raise a fuss about the rules we will kick you out and regulte you without your vote.

PhilipD

PhilipD via Jerry Irv> Fred, your statements are transparent and self serving horse's s*it. Per

That's funny, I didn't see any posts in the old thread, directed to me in line.. I guess I need to turn on my telepathic/moron detector.. Oh, I'm sorry I misspoke, I'm not telepathic..(;-)

Fred

Jerry - Thanks for posting that. I hated to ask but it needed to be said. Fred - Don't take it personally. I am having usenet server errors.

Now, would you care to continue the discussion?

Hmmm. Now I am a moron. I wasn't aware that this conversation had degraded to personal attacks... If that's where this is headed, I'll save my future comments for someone who actually wishes to engage in an intelligent discourse.

Philip

We can all see this conversationwith you is going nowhere.

Sounds like he wanted to the post to be public.

~ Duane Phillips.

Better leave Fred out of that one. He "did me a favor" of contacting DOT "on my behalf" and guess what hapened? A major investigation! Surprise,surprise.

Jerry

Narc.

No way. We have to have a 100 post thread on my being evil enough to post it still.

And let's be SURE to ignore that Fred Wallace "drops the dime on Jerry at DOT".

and that AT uncertified motors are in distribution while many certified ones are NOT.

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perhaps if more dimes were dropped.......and only at a last resort of course, these threads would cease...... I wonder if they have internet access at LOMPOC..........probably.....damn

shockie B)

I did. But my free server was fritzing out for 2 days. Guess I got what I paid for..

PhilipD

Interesting,

Just giving you your change back(;-) Seriously, I only gave DOT the documents you sent me and asked me to pass on to DOT. If I wanted to hammer your ass, I would of mentioned the two motors you shipped to Joe M. Do a little dance(;-).

Fred

It seems according to you, you just did!

Jerry Irvine wrote:

I get tired of defending myself against spurious claims and receiving apologies from government investigators compelled by duty to investigate this crap.

You would quit about 5 minutes after the first anal probe Ray.

Jerry

Obviously you have no idea of the disruption that an "inspection" by a government agency can cause. It doesn't matter how "legal" you are, they can have you completely stopped for weeks.

I know because I have been on the inspector and inspectee side.

Bob

Weeks? Optimistic, are ya?