OT: What are we doing in Najaf?

Aug 18, 2004 79 Replies

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William H. Shuey

Right! All Sadr wants is an Iranian style Muslim theocracy in Iraq. Nothing wrong with that, right??? Bill Shuey

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The Marines are talking tough about leveling the city of Najaf.



My God, what the hell are we doing? Saddam is in custody. Weapons of Mass Destruction are gone (someplace). Iraqis have their own government. The war is over.



The Sadr's militia are obviously not terrorists. The population is united in a desire to get the foreign soldiers out of their country. The fighters are legit "Minutemen" as far as I can tell.



I don't know about you all, but if some foreign country came here to steal our oil reserves, I would be a little upset also.



So now we plan a shock and awe display on the citizens of Najaf.?



Sounds like another Guenerica setup to me. I make that reference because I know you modelers know what I mean.



If that happens, nobody here can deny that Bush is a war criminal.



..../V


Right! All Sadr wants is an Iranian style Muslim theocracy in Iraq. Nothing wrong with that, right???

Bill Shuey

Or we could let the ING go in and get him.

"They beheaded one of his relatives and Sadr's Mehdi Army militants have gouged out the eyes of some of his officers and boiled them in hot water..."

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Is there a source for this assertion or is it merely the wishful thinking of a fertile imagination?

I didn't realize that Michael Moore was reading this group....

We have allowed ourselves to be maneuvred into a no-win situation there. We could let him and his thugs alone or we could level the place and have every Shia moslem coming after us. This thing has a wonderful chance of really going south.

The thing that bugs me is the total lack of indignation by the Shiites over this clown's violation of one of their holy places. It's always our fault.

I had severe reservations about our going there in the first place and Bush has managed to live down to my expectations. What wonders me is that it hasn't gotten worse than it is.

Bill Banaszak

Well, with your brain power being less than that of a piss-ant, I bet you would see the murderous thugs as "Minutemen."

Of course, unlike real patriots, they do not represent a cross section of their society. Nor, does a broad cross section of the society support them. Merely a very narrow group who is stupid enough to follow that particular cleric.

I bet you thought Saddam Hussein was legit, and a good guy too.......................

There's plenty wrong with that, but that's not the point. The point is, who are we to forbid it. Don't get me wrong though, these chaps are trying to get everyone to see things their way at gun point, which is something in need of resisting, but even if said theocracy were to come about through some form of democratic process, the US would still call those who brought it about terrorists and look for any excuse to bomb the hell out of them.

About 99% of all humanity needs to periodically introduce its left braincell to its right braincell, to make sure they stay in touch. If you let stupidity upset you, you're going to be upset a lot.

Rob

"Al Superczynski" schreef in bericht news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

If this is your definition of terrorists you might want to have a closer look at some of your allies.

How about the other way round? The appearances are against you.

his movie Fahrenheit 9/11 is very entertaining. Highly recommended...

Kill them all, let God sort them out.

Yeah, probably the best film of *that kind* since Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will and Fritz Hippler's The Eternal Jew ... :-P

"John Magne Stubsveen" schreef in bericht news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com...

Okay, it may be a blatant piece of propaganda without much factual value. But its much more fun than Super's postings ;-)

What Marines? The retired vets jawing on the streetcorner?

And you can tell this... ...how?

So now the US is stealing Iraq's oil reserves?

Per CNN this AM, the Iraqi forces were to mount an offensive to deal with your 'Minutemen'; no US forces are to be used.

I know what you're trying to get us to think but as usual, you're wrong. Study a little history. Then again, maybe you've painted a little piece and named it 'Najaf' and are waiting to display it as a

21st century Picasso...

Well, we'll cross that road when it comes, won't we? Don't hold your breath...

Can you please explain the "..../V" you like to add so much? It's starting to bug me...

..../F

Frank Kranick

Hey Uncle Ronnie did, when he sent Rummy over to shake the clown's hand and give him lotsa bucks.....

-- John The history of things that didn't happen has never been written. . - - - Henry Kissinger

I could live with that!

-- John The history of things that didn't happen has never been written. . - - - Henry Kissinger

Sure there is Al. It is called adding 2 + 2 and getting 4.

Sadr's militia is fighting conventionally; pitched battles street to street, mosque to mosque, tombstone to tombstone.

Terrorists on the other hand blow up buses full of children and busy market squares.

Even you should be able to see that difference.

On a positive note, within the last hour it appears that some progress in negotiating has been made. So perhaps the urge to level the town might be reduced. I certainly hope so.

But my gauntlet still is in effect. If Mr. Bush destroys Najaf, for any reason whatsoever, he is a war criminal.

And the reason of "protecting US soldier's lives" doesn't cut it as an excuse for wiping out the place. Those soldiers do not have to go in. There are no WMD or threats to America in Najaf. Ossama Bin Laden is not likely in Najaf. Leave that sorry excuse for a city to the Sadr and his followers.

And if Sadr successfully challenges the current Iraq government for the hearts and minds of the people, so be it. If Sadr wins political supremacy in Iraq and cuts off oil to America, so be it.

It is his oil. Or do you dispute this assertation as well? Huh? We could take a poll:

1) Oil in Iraq belongs to the Iraqi people. 2) It belongs to Hallibuton because we won it fair and square through military action. It is the spoils of war (which we started).

...../V

Hey Sam:

I scored Math SAT=Perfect. Can you verify that my brain is less then a piss-ant? What is a piss-ant anyhow? Wild accusations make no points in your favor. They just expose the bankruptcy of your positions. ..../V

How much you want to bet? ..../V

With this helpful thought, you just cancelled your ticket to the Rapture. ..../V

Hi Francis:

I don't totally object to any of your comments except .....

Our responsibility for leveling Najaf, if that should occur, cannot be shucked by claiming it was done by Iraqis themselves. That is like saying, "If I hire a hit man to kill my mother-in-law, I cannot be held accountable for the murder."

I am curious if CNN presented this information as a justification for any outcome. If so, then that tells you everything you need to know about CNN.

...../V

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