Dual Dimensioning

Can anybody help me out with dual dimensioning? I have an original print
that is dimensioned in millimeters, but our QA department measures in
decimal inches. So if I want to make a new print with dual dimensioning,
how do I handle decimal places? Everything I've seen so far has the inch
dimensions at one more decimal place than the millimeter dimensions. But
how do I handle some tolerances then? For example, if the millimeter
dimension is 1 +0/-0.1, how do I convert this to inches? One decimal place
greater than the millimeter unit would be 0.0 +/-0.0. Or would it be one
decimal place greater than the tolerance decimal places? This would give
you 0.04 +/-0.00. But in order for it to make sense, I'd have to bring it
out to 3 decimal places, so the inch dimension would be 0.039 +0.000/-.004.
So, how many decimal places are correct?
Reply to
Jason
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By far the easiest thing to do is measure the part in the unit it's made/designed in. Consider asking the QA guy to push the little inch/mm button on his measuring device. If he doesn't have such a button, seriously consider buying him some new tools--it'll be cheaper than doing the engineering to dual dimension everything.
Unit conversion is fraught with issues, but at least in general terms, you're correct--the "converted unit" (inches in your case) needs extra decimal places to deal with round off error. I've been down the road you're starting out on, and it's not a pretty process--good luck.
Reply to
Michael
Yeah, I agree that would be the easiest thing to do, but getting QA to agree to that may be a challenge.
If I can't do that, I'd still like to hear other people's input on the issue. Is there a "correct" number of decimal places to use?
Reply to
Jason
The way we handle this is to make all the drawings and parts in mm. You can set the tolerance of the dual dimension to 3 or 4 places in the precision option (RMB on dimension, PROPERTIES, PRECISION and change the dual dimension to the tol you want. The thing to remember is that a 0.1 place tolerance in mm is only about .004 in inches so tolerance them similar.
+0.000/-.004.
Reply to
John
Jason, pardon me if I'm not understanding correctly -- but why get hung up on number of decimal places? The number of decimal places in BOTH English/Imperial and Metric units are only relevant relative to default tolerances (in your title block or in the original print's title block). It's generally true that if you use more decimal places than three or four (in English/Imperial units) it MAY cause QA to have some difficulty in verifying out to the extremes of the tolerances . . . but only if the parts to be measured vary toward close to the extremes. But if your company's QA department is so pig-headed that they refuse to take their English measurements and convert ("hey guys, can you multiply by 25.4 or do I have to do it for you?") then they rather deserve what they get in difficulties. Even considering my intolerance for their stupidities, if I were in your place I would round off tolerances to three decimal places most times . . . or four if I felt that that the tolerance was critical AND was already so tight that giving a slight bit more via more decimal places would help prevent rejecting GOOD parts. In your example (.039 +.000/-.004) I would just your conversion to be appropriate.
Don't confuse the forest for the trees. Keep in mind the purpose of tolerances and the purpose of QA (not so much to reject parts, but to accept parts which are acceptable) and you'll keep your priorities straight.
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Reply to
Sporkman
Great, thanks for your comments.
dimensioning,
+0.000/-.004.
Reply to
Jason

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