Can someone please tell me what consists this engine would most likely have pulled. Also, what other railroad(s) would this N&W engine have potentially done busines with at an interchange?
Thanks So Much! Matt
Coal, coal and more coal. Perhaps some general freight as well.
Not sure that I completely understand the second part of the question, but N&W interchanged with these roads as well as some others. B&O, C&O, NYC, Southern, L&N, Virginian, ACL, SAL
Captain Handbrake
On the other hand, 6 of the USRA versions were sent to the Northern Pacific to alleviate their power shortage... I got one of the P2K 2-8-8-2s in Undec and changed it to be a NP loco....
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Kennedy
Yeah, they sold them to the Virginian, and then they ended up back on the N&W. Well, would have if any survived long enough to go through the merger. :) 'till later....
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I believe the "V" was merged with the N&W.
Train Masters, I believe.
Yeah, Train Masters, aka Fairbanks Morse H-24-66s. I'm not sure that any of the 2-8-8-2s lasted until the end (aka, N&W merger), but I know the FMs did. And the N&W used them up until the 70s, and a little into the 80s. 'till later....
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Could a Union Pacific [purchased] 2-8-8-2 be used to haul a Pacific Fruit Express [PFE] train?
Thanks! Matt
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Could a Union Pacific [purchased] 2-8-8-2 be used to haul a Pacific Fruit Express [PFE] train?
Thanks! Matt
Unlikely. Kratville, in "Motive Power of the Union Pacific", comments that although the N&W Mallets were received in good condition, their frames were too light for fast service on the UP. He states the N&W locos first worked the Butte line, but later were generally restricted to Rock Springs coal mine work. It's possible one may have served briefly as a helper on Sherman Hill, so you might put an ex N&W Mallet in front of a Big Boy on a reefer block to go up your helper district. But I'd doubt the N&W locos were ever the sole power on a loaded UP reefer train. GQ
The locos were mostly used for coal service but could also handle the regular freight. The locos were slow and couldn't keep up with the speeds desired by some roads so you'd want to use them for heavy trains that didn't go very fast. The boilers are somewhat small for doing anything fast and was the reason why they went so slow - they couldn't get enough steam produced to go more than about 30mph with a load.
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I suspect the size of the drivers also had much to do with the speeds at which they ran. Bob Rule, Jr. Hatboro, Pa.
Actually, it was the back pressure in the low-pressure system which slowed them (and all other true Mallets) down. N&W came up with the bridge-pipe front end and combined that with larger piston valves to free up the front end and get the modern Ys working up to 40-50 mph.
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I'd like to see any of the modern N&W engines fitted with a Lempor front end - then they'd go! :-)
The N&W replaced the steam with diesels very quickly and at a later timeframe than the other railroads did. Because of the late date of the conversion, the makers of the diesels could provide the locos quickly as they had the reserve cap. to do so. It was kind of sad how fast that the steam disappeared from the tracks. There really wasn't even any bit of overlap or reserving of steam to cover the diesel operation.
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N&W dieselized very fast. The decision was made about the time they were looking at the Virginian. The banks would not loan them money against their steam engines. They would loan then money with diesels as collateral. It appears that the steamers(no matter how modern they were) held little value other than scrap by that time. N&W went on a diesel buying spree, and could not get delivery fast enough so split the orders between EMD and Alco. N&W got into the diesel game so late that they leased 'E' units from either SAL or ACL for passenger service, and put brakeman 'dog houses' on the J's tenders so they could be used in freight service.
Jim Bernier
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