Newbie question :) be kind...

"Christopher A.Lee" skriver:

Nope.

A brief history: I am working with inkjet printes manufactured by Videojet in the US. Their newest printers still comes with allen screws in "inches" not mm.....

Klaus

On 1/18/2008 8:20 AM Greg Procter spake thus:

I've dealt with Ray's factually-challenged posts here; time now to deal with your usual spew.

First of all, I'm curious; *why* do you give a rat's ass what the US does or doesn't do WRT metric measurements? How is that any skin off your nose, especially seeing as how you have such a low opinion of us (some of which I happen to agree with, but that's neither here nor there)?

Is there something we (the US) manufacture that you're especially craving, if only it came in a measurement that you feel comfortable with? Somehow, I think not.

And surely you're aware of *massive* resistance to metrification in, among other places, the UK itself, right? It is by no means a done deal there (and there, not going along with the politically-correct thing can have real consequences, such as grocers being fined big time for daring to use non-metric measures. Such cases are in the courts now.)

No, he can't pass up any opportunity to make some, not stupid enough to be funny, quip about the US. He's a very frustrated individual who is still upset that the US won't buy his tired old sheep.

He claims to be from New Zealand but, for all we know he is a patient in some mental institution on the other side of the planet. He just has an active fantasy life.

Hmmm, I'm doodling 13.8??? It seems vaguely familiar.

Paul N.

Guess you haven't been out on the road for a while. Haven't seen one of those in many years.

Paul N.

On 18 Jan 2008 22:12:27 GMT, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and Puckdropper instead replied:

Out of curiosity, what type of measure is metric time?

Just kidding. Couldn't help myself.

-- Ray

On 1/18/2008 4:54 PM Ray Haddad spake thus:

Well, you may have been joking, but metric time actually was seriously proposed, most famously at the time of the French Revolution:

(Thank it was never implemented!)

Ever bought any US mechanical equipment, magazines, tins of soup, watched their TV programmes ... ?

You can't help yourself, can you Ray? Have you _any_ evidence of the US changing from archaic measures to metric?

Regards, Greg.P.

So what you're saying that the US went voluntary dual system in 1970 with no phase out of the archaic system.

Most are. Liquid volumes aren't. Distances and weights are.

Most US imperial measurements aren't English units.

Greg.P.

If I was modelling US railways I'd now be busy changing all the road signs back to MPH after changing them to dual mph/kph after reading your previous posting. I don't think it's irrelevant.

Wouldn't someone have to use it for it to be a _real_ standard there?

Greg.P. NZ

Didn't NASA send a spacecraft to Mars recently with a computer programmed in both imperial and metric?

I get amused at the local US modelling group that uses US module standards. They have to put a 20mm/40mm wide strip of top surface wood across the end of each module to bring the 1200mm/2400mm board size up to the US 1220/2440mm standard.

Greg.P. NZ

I'm modelling old time New Zealand railways which were built in feet/inches/fractions. I scale down 1:24 which works fine for feet, but is a pain for fractions.

Materials come in metric (easy) inches, fractions of inches (eg Plastruct) gauges and codes. Tools (eg drill bits) come in metrics, inches, fractions of inches, thous, numbers, gauges ...

My milling machine and lathe have metric movements but all the screws and bolts are to some incomprehensible and unavailable foreign sizes!

Try reducing a prototype foot/inch/fraction measurement to a scale 1:24 and then fit together metric and inch fraction materials to suit. (ahrrrg!)

Greg.P.

- I have for the last few decades used Emco machine tools. Now I've (mostly) changed to Sherline because Austrian equipment has been priced out of the world market. I'm therefore stuck with reverting to using strange foreign measurements and unavailable equipment.

- New Zealand is a small country so English language packaging (and contents) tend to be extensions of US orders, TV programmes often come from foreign english language countries - we get bombarded with US dimensions.

Yes - Sherline milling machine.

I'm not responsible for Britain's social rules. Here in NZ we made the transition around 1974. There are some major problems for manufacturers, spare parts supplies etc. Once you've got used to metrics you'll wonder why you ever put up with the archaic measurements. Of course, if you never make anything it will never bother you.

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:38:17 +1300, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and Greg Procter instead replied:

They do the same thing as here in Oz and down there. I know for a fact, and so do you, that many of your residents still refer to distances in miles. Perhaps this generation of young people will be the first to use only metric but right now, just as in the US, both are in use down here.

I went to a wood working show in September and didn't here centimeters used once. It was all inches and feet. The old timers just don't want to change.

-- Ray

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:29:32 +1300, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and Greg Procter instead replied:

Not exactly. It was mandated as a dual system of standards. But, worse than that, since it never really got accepted, there's a lot of cross over between systems. No kidding. It's never been rescinded so the US has dual standards.

-- Ray

On Sat, 19 Jan 2008 17:27:11 +1300, I said, "Pick a card, any card" and Greg Procter instead replied:

Yes. Soda cans, food cans and even soda bottles are all dual imprinted with mass and weight.

Of course I do. Just read the other comments on this thread for starters.

-- Ray

David Nebenzahl wrote in news:479172a4$0$1264$ snipped-for-privacy@news.adtechcomputers.com:

The reason I mentioned time specifically is because of the mks and cgs methods of physics measurements. The s stands for seconds. (m = meters, k=kilograms, c=centimeters, g=grams)

Puckdropper

Ray Haddad wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

FYI, in big cities distances aren't given in miles or kilometers. They're given in minutes. If you're in the Midwest US one night, try tuning in AM 780 from Chicago on the 8's as evidence. (You'll hear something like "Westbound Eden to the Junction 34 minutes.")

I think the big trouble is the meter's too big or the centimeter's too small. There needed to be a unit approximately the size of a foot, or even a half-meter. JMHO.

Are my steps approximately 2 feet apart, or 60 cm? Hm... 60+60+60+60+60+

60, or 2+2+2+2+2+2... which one's easier for the common person? (I'll give you a hint. Numbers over 10 scare people.)

Puckdropper