Don't sit there jumping up and down, shut up and let the others have a go,
that's what they want, let them do it.
I'll dig out some pictures of the unit later on tonight and let you have the url
I'm not proving a point, I'm letting others put their keyboards where their
mouths are :-))
I hope you're being devil's advocate, Peter, and I hope none of the others
follow your lead. You and the other original members set up and some of you
continue to feed a group which I enjoy paticipating in.
To my mind there is nothing wrong with the content of the NG as it is, there
is nobody who posts OT or not that troubles me. If a post doesn't catch my
interest, I don't have to read it.
I operate at home on 26.4k and my bandwidth is quite adequate to deal with
the volume of messages, so I don't buy the theory that the OT messages are
any sort of burden.
I would be very sorry to lose your input, and I feel the loss of others
recently has been bad enough. I do think there is plenty of room for others
to post on-topic and would urge them to do so. In this way they can
contribute and enrich the group, rather than just snipe.
I have just spent a long day travelling to manchester and back and doing a
days work in between, I have returned home and turned the PC on to check for
work related emails and then followed up with the NG's on Mdel engineering
there is a thread that is running away and I have blocked it, tonight there
was 36 postings and all for this thread so nothing else of interest.
Unfortunately the same thing is happening here and like Peter Forbes and I
dont suppose anybody has noticed but also Roland Craven another font have
had enough, well now you have another vanishing act "ME"
I dont need this crap!
I've held off this topic for now, but feel I have to put my point of view...
Off topic posts - undesirable if they start off OT, but often informative if
they drift into someones area of interest, expertise, experience etc. I
don't talk to everyone about engines all the time - we need a bit of variety
to keep things interesting.
On topic posts - please define on topic? - there are so many diverse
interests that bring this group together, with a common thread of things
old, mechanical and interesting.
I shall now sit back with another small measure of decent Irish Whiskey and
leave you to yourselves, I have had lots of help from this group and I hope
I have passed this on to other people where I can.
Yes Martin, I agree with you totally - you and the other main-stays that
this group alive and make it worth visiting. You don't deserve this. In my
you (meaning yourself Martin, and Peter, Kim, Nick, Arthur, George and many,
many more) have my overwhelming support.
Just to clarify things, I'm one of those many (??) lurkers, but now feel
to stand up and be counted. In my opinion, OTs on this NG aren't OT. These
postings show the people behind the engines and hold it all together. It
to put the hobby into reality. We all have other plates to keep spinning -
wife, kids, houses, mortgages, jobs and so on, and you guys admirably
demonstrate that life isn't all stationary engines (unfortunately!). Nor
it be. But it is fun, when you're allowed out!
I've been loitering in the shadows for probably a year or so (not really
a useful contribution to make), but being continually educated and
by this NG - and reassured that I'm not the only one who gets grief from
Don't let a (very minor) minority succeed in ruining what has been a
successful and worthwhile NG. If you go, so do I.
From one lurker to another - speak now!
PS Have knackered Lister D (yes, I know...). Will be scrounging soon, if
NG returns to sanity!
Nicely said Mike, We nearly all started with a similar engine to yours in our
I have just been given 2 starters engines so I have the lovely task this year of
a young starter & giving away 2 engines.
By the way if this list ever stops OT posting I will immediately stop accessing
Sounds of rattles leaving prams.
This NG has never drifted that far OT. Comments about pub and club chat seem
valid, KS chucks the occasional stone in
when things have quiet, why not.
I took a dive a few weeks ago because of something happening outside the NG but
connected to it - nothing to do with the
content of the group. I think a few people wondered why I did not name the
individual concerned but we had a suspicion
that it was not that person sending the mails (now proved correct).
Most people contributing to this NG have fairly strong opinions and don't always
agree - nothing wrong with that, thats
life. So presumably that applies to the subject of OT posts. If you don't like
it and think they are getting excessive,
say so, your piece now said, get on with life.
If you don't like it, don't look. I still susbcribe to ATIS but ignore 95% of
what is said, I only ignore about 10% on
the NG so NG can't be that bad.
Anyone that thinks this group does provide a good level of service/help to all
interested parties is a total Rodney. Any
group will have a core of people that post, and that may make it seem insular.
Walk into any good local as a stranger
and what happens, go back 5 times that week and you are a local by Friday.
I field a large number of emails on a daily basis requesting help that have come
to me from lurkers/casual readers of
the NG and passed from other contributors so as far as I am concerned the NG
works for them.
Bit long, sorry.
Internal Fire, Museum of Power, Wales
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com ).
As an occasional poster and regular lurker to this group, may I add my 2ps
This has to be one of the most knowledgable and friendly ngs going.
I have had help from the likes of Kim, Arthur, Dave and Peter.
They don't know me and have gone out of their way to send pics and photocopy
items for me.
I have learnt much from the whole group on On topic and Offtopic matters, if
an offtopic post
does not interest me I can just mark it 'as read', wheres the problem?
So Gentlemen do not give up on the ng, or before you know it the 'powers
that be' will shut it down for lack of use.
Then we will ALL lose a valuable resource.
At the risk of "bad netiquette" and as someone who only posts if I feel I
have an input, I agree entirely with Anthony.
I have acquired a wealth of help and knowledge (and about 8 engines) from
the regulars on this newsgroup and read the posts every day. I also agree
with Dan, I have no problem with OT posts (they sometimes drift back anyway)
but if I feel a thread does not interest me, I mark it as read and go on to
Keep it up all you regulars, we enjoy it.
Well, OT or not, I've had delivered this morning a book I've wanted for
around thirty years having never managed to track it down before.
"The Power To Fly" (LJK Setright) came from the Dutch specialist book dealer
that Nick Highfield pointed me to on this NG. Thanks very much for spotting
it Nick, I'm obliged to you!
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