Bachmann 2005

Yes, of course I was taking the micheal just a bit , but at the fact that it would cost bugger all in comparison to the rising prices of todays models to have a little more attention to detail at the factory. It could hardly slow production up any more than it is! Wahtever the workers are paid, one bag, two bags a day or even a whole live chicken, its still alot cheaper than making the models in the uk.

what do your family make Kim?

Some economists, including Milton Friedman, dispute that. Labour costs may be lower but fixed costs remain the same and some costs are actually higher.

We make electrical appliances, video and audio recordings but nothing connected with model railways. We did once sell a train set in the 1960's but I think that was made for us by another company. I don't have any details.

(kim)

According to the August 2004 issue of BRM No 34064 Fighter Command (the Ray Mansfield model) was fitted with a giesel injector in August 1962 and retained it until withdrawal in May 1966.

(kim)

Don't both you mean a Giesel ejector (chimney)?

Yes they do, an *injector* puts water into the boiler - an ejector help take it out !

A 9F (92250?) was also fitted with one.

thats correct, but ray mansfield has fitted them to City of welss i think it was and tied to tell me this loco had it fitted in br days too! Obviously he had too many fighter command done, or at least could not sell them at the over priced £125 asking so thaught a more famous member of the class may sell.

He did not like bbeing told he was wrong!! The guy is a cowboy in my book.

opps, too much red wine, City of Wells was the other loco he was trying to fobb people off with!

I've yet to see a taker for any of Ray Mansfield's 'buy it now' offers on eBay and they don't refund the listing fee which is considerable. Personally I object to an auction site being clogged up with non-auction items. If I wanted to buy one of these I would simply visit Ray Manfield's web site and order them in the usual way.

(kim)

To be completely fair and to avoid any confusion, City of Wells WAS at one time, fitted with a Giesl ejector but in the preservation era, rather than BR.

Dave W.

"Christopher A. Lee" wrote

And Bulleid WC 4-6-2 34092 'City of Wells' for a time in preservation whilst it had a main line ticket.

John.

"piemanlarger" wrote I will hold final judgement when I seen the Br green Grange from hornby. The wethered example at warley did look the best yet, but I still think the top of the loco was not blackish? Hope they pick up on this fact soon?

Simon, I think you are missing one other point, which I am very surprised at with you being an owner of a 9F (which along with 8Fs were well known for) the fact that they miss the white lime scale runs down the boiler or around the safety valves. You will also find that there is a shine to the front of the cylinder covers above the taps (which are only just being modelled thanks to more scale curves on the track) where steam has wet the muck... There is also the bit of ash left above the front buffers from cleaning out the smoke box, or the small splashes of oil near the oil boxes where the can has dribbled...

Personally, I think the weathering is a good start for adding your own. I would add more to an already weathered loco, but I wouldn't to a pristine loco. I don't know why, I just wouldn't.

I would like to see some coaches done RTR with weathering, but as to roofs, well, that would vary anyway as to which end of the stock it was (or rather if it were in the middle!) and the length.

TTFN

Andy,

Would that not depend on where the locomotives were normally serviced and the state of the local water supply. For example, in the west of Scotland the water is so soft that you never get any scale build up. I cna remember dirty steam locos on Clydeside, but I can't remember any signs of white scale.

Jim.

"Jim Guthrie" wrote Would that not depend on where the locomotives were normally serviced and the state of the local water supply. For example, in the west of Scotland the water is so soft that you never get any scale build up. I cna remember dirty steam locos on Clydeside, but I can't remember any signs of white scale.

Jim. Jim, Probably a very good point! Maybe it was just the Severn Trent water that caused it with the Annesley shedded locos?

Andy

Didn't Hornby do some weathered Mk Is in the last year or so? I must admit I was tempted a little but would prefer to wait for the Bachmann ones or learn how to weather the Bachmann ones myself.

Mark 2 and 2a BSO and BFK share the same bodyshell

In real life the same shell!