New Heljan 33/0s

Heljan have just released new 33/0 models as: - Green D6585 - WCRC 33025 - WCRC 33029
Can anybody who has seen them please tell me if the have the 'flat' roof
profile of older 33/0s, or the corrected profile that appeared on their 33/1s. Thanks Jon
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"Jon Biglowe" wrote

I've got one of the green ones in front of me now and compared with a similar 33/1 I'd say the roof is very slightly flatter. I'm not familar enough with the prototypes to say whether it looks right or not.
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 12:26:52 -0000, Jon Biglowe

It's the incorrect flat roof profile. You are not one of those rivet counters who insist on their models being the same shape as the prototype are you? :)
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It's always good if is the right shape!
It would have seemed sensible for Heljan to get it right, as they have already done so for 33/1s. I know there are a lot of people who won't buy these models now.
Jon
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On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 16:18:18 -0000, Jon Biglowe

True, but there are also those who still will.
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"Fred X" wrote

And have, but if you want a decent 33/0 what choices are there?
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wrote:

The Hornby Railroad version? :)
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"Fred X" wrote

Enough said! ;-)
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Jon Biglowe wrote:

Contrast it with Bachmann's criticism of the 37 and the different versions they have brought out to correct them.
Chris
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Yes, but there are much larger sales potential for a Class 37.
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Fred X wrote:

They never corrected the 47 either which has at least the same sales potential as a 37.
Chris
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"Chris" wrote

Oh really?
You've not seen the latest class 47s from Bachmann then?
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John Turner wrote:

Not quite sure what you mean. I was making the point that Bachmann do seem to try and correct mistakes even if not wholly successful whereas Heljan don't seem to revisit their products.
Chris
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"Chris" wrote

You said they've never corrected the class 47 - but it may be that you were referring to the Heljan model and not the Bachmann one as I first assmed. If that's the case then I apologise unreservedly.
Just to clarify my comment: Bachmann have modified their class 47 tooling and the latest models seem to be a worthwhile improvement over the earlier ones.
John.
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Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 9:25 AM Newsgroups: uk.rec.models.rail Subject: Re: New Heljan 33/0s

Do they still have rivet heads around the windscreen frames, like the class 57?
Riddles
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"Riddles" wrote

No, they've been removed along with the piping from the (class 57) bogies.
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Presumably this has happened in the last 12 months then!
My 32-801DS, (D1746) bought on 26/1/09 has similar windscreen surrounds and bogies, to my 32-760 (57307) bought 25/8/06.
Riddles
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"Riddles" wrote

Yes, the first modified release (late 2009) was in the new boxing (with internal clear plastic model support) and from memory is:
31-652 - 47474 "Sir Roland Hill" in RES livery
31-650 & 31-651 are due to follow soon
John.
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John Turner wrote:

Yep that's what I meant following the Heljan 33/0 retooling discussion and yes I know Bachmann have brought out a newer version of the 47. Sorry for the confusion.
Chris
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